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  • Grebb, Langford, Dempsey and today's boxers

    I often read on this forum how posters rate Harry Grebb, Sam Langford and other fighters from a 100yrs ago as ATGs. How those fighters like Grebb and Langford would have little trouble taking care of today's fighters, like Froch, Ward, Kovalev or Hopkins. Sam Langford claimed, "Jack Dempsey to be the greatest fighter he ever seen". Dempsey was rated by boxing experts and historians. As the greatest fighter of all times, He was rated the greatest right up to the 1960s when those experts and historians passed away. If Grebb & Langford could slaughter the likes of Froch, Kovalev etc. Then why cant Dempsey slaughter the likes of Klitschko, Lewis, Tyson etc ?... Gene Tunney sat ringside for Larry Holmes vs Ken Norton World Title fight in Las Vegas 1978. One of the best Heavyweight Title fights of all times. Tunney, when interviewed at ringside claimed, "Jack Dempsey would have knocked out both those guys in the first round".. Legendary Hall of Fame Trainer Ray Arcel, claimed "Dempsey to be the greatest fighter who ever lived" right up to the time of his death in 1994... Why is Jack Dempsey not rated so high or great today, but Grebb & Langford are?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Galileo View Post
    Tunney, when interviewed at ringside claimed, "Jack Dempsey would have knocked out both those guys in the first round"..
    Tunney said the same thing regarding Joe Louis.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by joeandthebums View Post
      Tunney said the same thing regarding Joe Louis.
      i can't say ive ever read it or came across him quoting it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by joeandthebums View Post
        Tunney said the same thing regarding Joe Louis.
        Did Tunney say, Joe Louis would KO both Holmes & Norton?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Galileo View Post
          Did Tunney say, Joe Louis would KO both Holmes & Norton?
          No he was asked to give his take on Dempsey-Louis and said Dempsey first round KO.

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          • #6
            Here's the article:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by joeandthebums View Post
              Here's the article:

              great article, thanks so much.

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              • #8
                A lot of people seem to think their particular era was the best plus the memories of old men are not very reliable. No way would Dempsey have defeated Holmes or Norton.

                Some of the backlash against Dempsey's greatness that you find on internet forums relates to his 'resume' being limited. Of course his greatness was not forged upon such matters. Besides boxing fans can win more status for their knowledge arguing about how great Greb or Langford were because they were never lionized in the way Dempsey was. None of those guys would get the better of the best of the 'modern' fighters.

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                • #9
                  Dempsey didn't beat as good fighters as those guys did.

                  I disagree with him entirely that he could beat guys like Ali, Holmes, etc etc.

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                  • #10
                    demspey is one of the most all time overrated guys ever...


                    Let tyson stand over a downed opponent and let him tee off as soon as opponent rises.. tyson would have been killing guys..

                    Dempsey gets slaughtered by any legit top notch heavy

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