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  • LacedUp
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    #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Duran-Leonard
    Armstrong-Ross
    Charles-Moore
    Which of Charles' and Moore's fights were the biggest?

    Originally posted by Easy Work TBE
    Ali Foreman is definitaly the best win in boxing history.

    Ali was viewed as past his prime and going to be demolished like everyone had been by foreman, then he won
    Everything you said can be said for Hagler-Leonard too.

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    • joeandthebums
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      #12
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Which of Charles' and Moore's fights were the biggest?
      Their 3rd meeting. Charles knocked out Moore.

      Charles is criminally underrated.

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      • BKM-2010
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        #13
        If we also consider casual boxing fans, it's Ali-Foreman by far.

        But I think the real answer is a big anticipated fight where two ATG's fought in a fight that truly delivered, and where the winner was a smaller man going up in weight and still prevailling. I think the latter is the most important.

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          #14
          Originally posted by BKM-2010
          If we also consider casual boxing fans, it's Ali-Foreman by far.

          But I think the real answer is a big anticipated fight where two ATG's fought in a fight that truly delivered, and where the winner was a smaller man going up in weight and still prevailling. I think the latter is the most important.
          Leonard-Duran or Hagler-Leonard would fulfill those criteria.

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            #15
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Leonard-Duran or Hagler-Leonard would fulfill those criteria.
            That's what I had in mind. I just think at that level of skill, a natural size advantage is very important in the fight and to overcome that gives it little extra greatness.

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #16
              Frazier beating Ali.... It was the fight of the century

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                #17
                Originally posted by BKM-2010
                That's what I had in mind. I just think at that level of skill, a natural size advantage is very important in the fight and to overcome that gives it little extra greatness.
                Yeah but how do you go about assessing that level of skill, surely that's key in judging the strength of a win?

                But anyway Duran - Leonard
                Leonard - Hagler
                Mayweather - Mosley
                Ali - Foreman
                Frazier - Ali
                Mayweather - Oscar
                Lamotta - Robinson

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                • BennyST
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                  #18
                  I've always viewed Duran vs Leonard I as the greatest win in boxing history.

                  As good as something like Ali/Foeman is, Foreman didn't turn out to be as good as what Leonard turned out to be. If Foreman had gone on to keep destroying everyone even easier than he did Frazier, then did the comeback thing too, I could agree with it being up there.

                  However, he had obvious flaws going into that fight that a great heavyweight like Ali could exploit. Ali was also a big, solid heavyweight too. Great, epic win to cap off a legendary career, but not the best win ever.

                  The way he lost also showed that it was as much Foremans flaws as it was Ali's brilliance and strategy that lost him that fight. It's hard to imagine either Duran or Leonard losing to many, if any, other fighters on that night. Just absurd skill, heart, determination and fire in, I think, the greatest display of fighting by two guys (not an amazing individual performance against a lesser or outmatched fighter) we'll ever see.

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                    #19
                    ... It's still Ali-Foreman for me -- because I watched it live...

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                      #20
                      It’s hard to argue against Duran-Leonard, especially with the footage at hand, but how about the second Robinson-Gavilan fight? Of course it lacks the added ****e from a smaller man that moves up and wins, but it's rare that two fighters considered by many as Top 5 material in an original division go up against each other, especially in a peak-for-peak showdown.

                      It’s quite Charles-Moore’esque in that regard, even if Archie are almost universally rated higher than Gavilan at their respective weight.


                      Harada-Jofre and Gomez-Zarate is two plausible options, but weight problems/possible sickness casts somewhat of a shadow over those victories and may reduce the gloss somewhat, especially in the latter. Gomez-Zarate might be deemed as too one-sided as well.

                      Give me Laguna-Ortiz as a dark horse type of choice. A former #1 rated bantam’ and feather’ beating one of the very best lightweights at his apex is sensational stuff.

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