Vitali Klitschkos early opponents.

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I don't see how it can be a "good standard" when he fought barely any fighters who were in the top 10.

His oppositon was poor.

I'm sure Vitali fought all his mandatory and No. 1 challengers for the WBC belt whilst Wlad fought his respectively. Seeing as Wlad held the majority of belts he was bound to come across a more diverse talent pool than Vitali encountered.

they are two different fighters. Not the same person.

The only fight that could have given Vitali career the extra oomph was a rematch with Lewis or better yet a fight with Wlad (which would never happen btw). This is the reason why you have to look at it in a unique manner.

[Weltschmerz]

[QUOTE=StudentOfDaGame;15177122]I'm sure Vitali fought all his mandatory and No. 1 challengers for the WBC beltQUOTE]

Whatever they can do, they will do to discredit Vitali. As per usual, as with Vladimir, he will be blamed for his opposition, rather than for his achievements as a title holder.

The Klitschko Brothers will just never get due credit.

[Weltschmerz]

Without injuries and the presence of his younger sibling, Vitali would no doubt have gone down in history as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm sure Vitali fought all his mandatory and No. 1 challengers for the WBC belt whilst Wlad fought his respectively. Seeing as Wlad held the majority of belts he was bound to come across a more diverse talent pool than Vitali encountered.



The only fight that could have given Vitali career the extra oomph was a rematch with Lewis or better yet a fight with Wlad (which would never happen btw). This is the reason why you have to look at it in a unique manner.

He fought his mandatories but the mandatories often aren't top 10. Top 10 in the sanctioning body ranking but that often means little.

He fought barely any fighters in the top 10. Very very few.

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=-Weltschmerz-;15177174]

I'm sure Vitali fought all his mandatory and No. 1 challengers for the WBC beltQUOTE]

Whatever they can do, they will do to discredit Vitali. As per usual, as with Vladimir, he will be blamed for his opposition, rather than for his achievements as a title holder.

The Klitschko Brothers will just never get due credit.

That's nonsense because I'm a fan of Wlad and rate him highly.

Wlad has beaten a lot of good fighters, a lot of guys in the top 10.

Same can't be said for Vitali.

[IronDanHamza]

Without injuries and the presence of his younger sibling, Vitali would no doubt have gone down in history as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

That's speculation.

Fact is he did have those things and for whatever reason doesn't have a very good resume.

[HughJass]

06-26 -- Herbie Hide, London, England, W KO 2
(Won WBO Heavyweight Title)
02-20 -- Ismael Youla, Hamburg, Germany, W TKO 2

1998
12-05 -- Francesco Spinelli, Kiev, Ukraine, W KO 1
10-24 -- Mario Schiesser, Hamburg, Germany, W TKO 2
08-11 -- Ricardo Kennedy, Miami, FL, W TKO 1
06-05 -- Jose Ribalta, Hamburg, Germany, W TKO 2
05-02 -- **** Ryan, Lubeck, Germany, W TKO 5
04-18 -- Julius Francis, Aachen, Germany, W TKO 2
03-20 -- Levi Billups, Frankfurt, Germany, W KO 2
03-07 -- Louis Monaco, Cologne, Germany, W KO 3
01-30 -- Alben Belinski, Munich, Germany, W KO 2
01-17 -- Marcus Rhode, Berlin, Germany, W TKO 2

1997
12-20 -- Anthony Willis, Offenburg, Germany, W KO 5
11-29 -- Herman Delgado, Karlsruhe, Germany, W TKO 3
11-08 -- Gilberto Williamson, Frankfurt, Germany, W KO 6
10-04 -- Will Hinton, Hannover, Germany, W KO 2
06-14 -- Jimmy Haynes, Aachen, Germany, W TKO 2
05-10 -- Cleveland Woods, Frankfurt, Germany, W KO 2
04-12 -- Derrick Roddy, Aachen, Germany, W TKO 2
03-08 -- Calvin Jones, Cologne, Germany, W KO 1
02-22 -- Troy Roberts, Hamburg, Germany, W KO 2
01-25 -- Mike Acklie, Stuttgart, Germany, W KO 1

1996
12-21 -- Brian Sargent, Frankfurt, Germany, W TKO 2
11-30 -- Frantisek Sumina, Wiener Neustadt, Austria, W TKO 1
11-16 -- Tony Bradham, Hamburg, Germany, W KO 2


See weltz...not lying.But then again,Levi Billups is an ATG.

I've always thought that Vitali's power has been a tad overrated.He most impressed me back when he demolished Arreola,considering the hype surrounding Arreola at the time,it was a good performance from Vitali.

After the contest with Arreola the ko's became very rare.He only ko'ed 4 more opponents and 2 of them were controversial stoppages(well,one a fake in Solis and a cut for Charr).

[Weltschmerz]

06-26 -- Herbie Hide, London, England, W KO 2
(Won WBO Heavyweight Title)
02-20 -- Ismael Youla, Hamburg, Germany, W TKO 2

1998
12-05 -- Francesco Spinelli, Kiev, Ukraine, W KO 1
10-24 -- Mario Schiesser, Hamburg, Germany, W TKO 2
08-11 -- Ricardo Kennedy, Miami, FL, W TKO 1
06-05 -- Jose Ribalta, Hamburg, Germany, W TKO 2
05-02 -- **** Ryan, Lubeck, Germany, W TKO 5
04-18 -- Julius Francis, Aachen, Germany, W TKO 2
03-20 -- Levi Billups, Frankfurt, Germany, W KO 2
03-07 -- Louis Monaco, Cologne, Germany, W KO 3
01-30 -- Alben Belinski, Munich, Germany, W KO 2
01-17 -- Marcus Rhode, Berlin, Germany, W TKO 2

1997
12-20 -- Anthony Willis, Offenburg, Germany, W KO 5
11-29 -- Herman Delgado, Karlsruhe, Germany, W TKO 3
11-08 -- Gilberto Williamson, Frankfurt, Germany, W KO 6
10-04 -- Will Hinton, Hannover, Germany, W KO 2
06-14 -- Jimmy Haynes, Aachen, Germany, W TKO 2
05-10 -- Cleveland Woods, Frankfurt, Germany, W KO 2
04-12 -- Derrick Roddy, Aachen, Germany, W TKO 2
03-08 -- Calvin Jones, Cologne, Germany, W KO 1
02-22 -- Troy Roberts, Hamburg, Germany, W KO 2
01-25 -- Mike Acklie, Stuttgart, Germany, W KO 1

1996
12-21 -- Brian Sargent, Frankfurt, Germany, W TKO 2
11-30 -- Frantisek Sumina, Wiener Neustadt, Austria, W TKO 1
11-16 -- Tony Bradham, Hamburg, Germany, W KO 2


See weltz...not lying.But then again,Levi Billups is an ATG.

I've always thought that Vitali's power has been a tad overrated.He most impressed me back when he demolished Arreola,considering the hype surrounding Arreola at the time,it was a good performance from Vitali.

After the contest with Arreola the ko's became very rare.He only ko'ed 4 more opponents and 2 of them were controversial stoppages(well,one a fake in Solis and a cut for Charr).

I never claimed Vitali has a great resume. But there's no reason to piss all over him. He did well, especially considering his comeback and the fact that he is a 3 time world champion.

[HughJass]

I never claimed Vitali has a great resume. But there's no reason to piss all over him. He did well, especially considering his comeback and the fact that he is a 3 time world champion.

I'm certainly not pi.ssing on him lad.Just when doing some research for work i decided to look a little deeper.

He is a 3 time world champion and a tough one aswell who would be a decent fight stylistically for any heavy in any era.

[LacedUp]

He fought his mandatories but the mandatories often aren't top 10. Top 10 in the sanctioning body ranking but that often means little.

He fought barely any fighters in the top 10. Very very few.

I counted it once, and I think it was 5 guys in the top 10 during his whole career, which were wins that is.

As in fighters presently in the top 10.

Absolutely horrible for a so-called great heavyweight champion. Big waste in my opinion. I would have liked to see him face a lot of the guys Wladimir fought.