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  • butterfly1964
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    #151
    Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
    I love Dempsey and Marciano, but Marciano I think is better. Marciano would rather die than lose. And you gotta take points from Dempsey for drawing the color line. Dempsey wouldnt even fight a 41 year old Jack Johnson.
    Johnson didn't deserve a title shot at that point, plus the politics of the day wouldn't allow him to fight him.

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    • dempsey1919
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      #152
      Originally posted by Da Iceman
      ok since when does speed mean you have skill, and you think dempsey would ko marciano? lets get real, dempsey had the chin of a starved sewer rat. marciano would destroy him worse then vingo and walcott put together.


      Dempsey Didnt have just speed and power he had good movment good head movment vary good chin lets say tyson was a clone of Dempsey as fare as fighting style

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      • Kid Achilles
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        #153
        Why the **** would Dempsey fight a 41 year old Johnson? He would have nothing to gain by beating on an ancient former champion.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Kid Achilles
          Why the **** would Dempsey fight a 41 year old Johnson? He would have nothing to gain by beating on an ancient former champion.
          Exactly....

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          • Mike Tyson77
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            #155
            Originally posted by Kid Achilles
            Why the **** would Dempsey fight a 41 year old Johnson? He would have nothing to gain by beating on an ancient former champion.

            Everyone hated Jack Johnson. If Dempsey knock Jacks head clean off he would have been 1000 times more popular.

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            • Kid Achilles
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              #156
              What makes you so sure of this? No one wanted to see Dempsey in the ring with Johnson, except for maybe Johnson's fans. It wouldn't have been a competitive fight at all and Johnson could have been killed or seriously injured considering Dempsey's ability and punching power.

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              • butterfly1964
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                #157
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                What makes you so sure of this? No one wanted to see Dempsey in the ring with Johnson, except for maybe Johnson's fans. It wouldn't have been a competitive fight at all and Johnson could have been killed or seriously injured considering Dempsey's ability and punching power.
                I don't know about killed, that's stretching it, but there was no way he was gonna win, I'll admit that.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                  What makes you so sure of this? No one wanted to see Dempsey in the ring with Johnson, except for maybe Johnson's fans. It wouldn't have been a competitive fight at all and Johnson could have been killed or seriously injured considering Dempsey's ability and punching power.
                  Indeed. Would have done little for dempseys rep.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Da Iceman
                    was dempsey a lucky bum that came up in a weak era?
                    - -Jack saved boxing.

                    Makes U the lucky fan.

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