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  • tyger
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    #21
    Foreman had a great chin. Ali didn't really knock him out. Foreman punched himself out. He got used to blowing out top guys out in two rounds. Ali was elusive like Jimmy Young. Guys like that were the only guys that would have had a chance against a young Foreman.

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    • Ray Corso
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      #22
      Why does Ike and Tua's name show up as heavyweights that could "make a difference"? The only half way decent guys they beat were one another. Ike NEVER stepped up and the few times Tua did he was dominated!
      These young men don't belong in the same paragraph as a Holmes or Foreman and they are not top 100 heavies. They had good records from fighting easy opponents so someday they could challenge for good pay days. Nothing more nothing less. Tua should hacve followed his cousins and went to the WWF if he could learn the game he might have been the "Island Doozer"
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      • Holywarrior
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        #23
        Originally posted by Ray Corso
        Why does Ike and Tua's name show up as heavyweights that could "make a difference"? The only half way decent guys they beat were one another. Ike NEVER stepped up and the few times Tua did he was dominated!
        These young men don't belong in the same paragraph as a Holmes or Foreman and they are not top 100 heavies. They had good records from fighting easy opponents so someday they could challenge for good pay days. Nothing more nothing less. Tua should hacve followed his cousins and went to the WWF if he could learn the game he might have been the "Island Doozer"
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        Foreman didn't exactly fight a murderer's row en route to the title either.

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        • GeneralZod
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          #24
          Originally posted by Holywarrior
          Foreman didn't exactly fight a murderer's row en route to the title either.
          His pre-reign bouts are noticeably weak, albeit him knocking Wepner the **** out in his 4th bout. But once he got to Frazier he scored some great wins.

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          • Scott9945
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            #25
            Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
            Im sure Earnie Shavers could have. Not saying that as an absolute but as extremely likely possibility.
            Of course Shavers hit hard enough to stop any heavyweight ever. However I would put Shavers' chances of stopping Foreman as considerably less than "extremely likely". I would bet very heavily on George, who was a completely superior boxing talent.

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            • DeepSleep
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              #26
              Originally posted by GeneralZod
              Ron Lyle put him down, even if George's spirit was diminished.
              Ron Lyle was dangerously close to finishing off George so I'd imagine he'd have a shot in a fantasy rematch(Although I'd favor George to KO Lyle again).

              I'd say there is a handful guys who could get into a brawl and land a bomb and get a chance. The problem is with most of them I'd favor Georgre to land bombs in return and generally I'll take George with his iron chin and brutal power to win most of these exchanges.

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              • rockybone
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                #27
                I agree totaly.

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                • Panamaniac
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                  #28
                  Is Ali the only man in history who

                  Originally posted by likeamulekick
                  ...could knockOUT a prime George foreman.
                  Nope... I got a sneaky su****ion Ron Lyle could too.

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                  • Panamaniac
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                    #29
                    I almost didn't notice the elephant in the corner of the room - Mike Tyson. Although he did not KO every opponent, I don't think there's a single fighter he couldn't, and that includes Foreman! I got a kick out of watching him flatten taller men, which wasn't much of a stretch, given that the vast majority of his opponents were taller. Watching Tyson deliver punches was like watching a lumberjack wield an ax to fell a tree.

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Panamaniac
                      I almost didn't notice the elephant in the corner of the room - Mike Tyson. Although he did not KO every opponent, I don't think there's a single fighter he couldn't, and that includes Foreman! I got a kick out of watching him flatten taller men, which wasn't much of a stretch, given that the vast majority of his opponents were taller. Watching Tyson deliver punches was like watching a lumberjack wield an ax to fell a tree.

                      Good point.....

                      I also think lennox lewis could ko anyone if he was able to land flush,, he wrecked alot of fighters

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