Greatest British fighters since 1945

[fight_professor]

Lewis would definitely #1 from 1945 onward IMO.

Not really sure how I'd lay the rest out

Agreed. LL was undisputed HW champ for a bit. That tops everything any of the others did. LL is an ATG top 10 HW, probably. He was the best of British - despite being from Canada.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

lennox lewis has to be the clear #1

[LacedUp]

Every Hamed opponent I listed was a belt holder. If I thought Direll-Froch was especially close I would consider it a legitimate win but it wasn't close enough for me to say that.

The best win out of both Froch and Hamed's records is Hamed's. The manner that Hamed beat the version of Vasquez he beat was more impressive than Froch's best win which was probably the Kessler win, which was a very narrow victory. I don't know if it is just because Froch's opponents are more recent but his standard of opponents really isn't higher than Hamed's. Is Bute really better than Bungu for example? They had similar periods as belt holders, Bungu 6 years and Bute 5, both got smashed to pieces when they fought Hamed and Froch respectively.

I couldn't disagree more. Vasquez was not in his prime. And Froch's win over Bute outshines that win - and Kelley is probably Naz's best win imo. I think it's pretty clear that Froch's resume is better than Naz's, but I'll get a poll going on NSB - I'm interested to hear what other people would be saying about this.

[Daddy T]

Care to elaborate? Dissect his record for example.

I'm guessing people think his record is weaker than Lennox Lewis', i'm not so sure about that myself plus Hamed really smashed the hell out of a lot of guys. Nas also only had one defeat against a guy who was one of the best p4p at the time whilst Lewis lost two fights, the latter in particular against someone not especially impressive.

I don't really think it's worth debating anything with you as you never change your opinions. But it is what it is ... lewis - undisputed heavyweight champion of the world ... avenged both losses in completely dominant manner ... wins over numerous top, top guys, Olympic gold medalist etc etc. Naz ... spectacular against lesser opponents ... very entertaining ... lost decisively against the best guy he fought and then quit.

It's not even close and I feel kinda silly for even comparing the two with a straight face but whatever ...

[Anthony342]

I agree.. With Calzaghe at no2 imo.

He gets a lot of bad posts on here, but would have given any versions of Jones and Hopkins, a good run for their money.. Young Joe was virtually unhitable

I thought Calzaghe was Welsh, not British. Or can you be British and be from somewhere other than England?

[mickey malone]

I thought Calzaghe was Welsh, not British. Or can you be British and be from somewhere other than England?

Shocked... Thought you were brighter than that.

Great Britain aka The UK, or The British Isles,, includes Wales!
Now I expect we'll have some knob, who thinks he's Italian lol

[LacedUp]

Every Hamed opponent I listed was a belt holder. If I thought Direll-Froch was especially close I would consider it a legitimate win but it wasn't close enough for me to say that.

The best win out of both Froch and Hamed's records is Hamed's. The manner that Hamed beat the version of Vasquez he beat was more impressive than Froch's best win which was probably the Kessler win, which was a very narrow victory. I don't know if it is just because Froch's opponents are more recent but his standard of opponents really isn't higher than Hamed's. Is Bute really better than Bungu for example? They had similar periods as belt holders, Bungu 6 years and Bute 5, both got smashed to pieces when they fought Hamed and Froch respectively.

IT's not just me:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/po...s&pollid=42179

[Daddy T]

IT's not just me:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/po...s&pollid=42179

lol with the caveat that one of those votes for naz was accidental!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Naz is probably in the top 10,, I would rate him higher than hatton, and froch but lower than lewis and calzaghe

Im not from the UK so i can only fairly rank the guys that became huge superstars, but i would say the top guys would be something like:

1 lewis
2 calzaghe
3. eubanks
4. naz
5. benn
6. hatton
7. froch
8. collins

[Anthony342]

Shocked... Thought you were brighter than that.

Great Britain aka The UK, or The British Isles,, includes Wales!
Now I expect we'll have some knob, who thinks he's Italian lol

With geography, not really. Probably my worst subject in school. But I guess I am brighter now thanks, got it. So he's British because it's all part of the UK. I like their TV shows there, by the way, much more clever writing and much fewer commercials and episodes. As much as I like Elementary, Sherlock is far superior.