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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Someone else has mentioned Zivic, the man in his Avatar.

    He was one of the dirtiest.

    Not an ATG though IMO.

    Saddler an obvious choice, one of the dirtiest ATG's there was.

    These guys blatently bend the rules, they aren't even subtle with it.

    Guys like Hopkins and Mayweather and others are more subtle when bending the rules.

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    • greeh
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      #12
      Shyte, I missed that it had to be ATG's. Gushiken dosen't belong then...

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      • fight_professor
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        #13
        My brother, Mike Tyson wasnt a stickler for the rules.

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        • Rip Chudd
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          #14
          Originally posted by fight_professor
          My brother, Mike Tyson wasnt a stickler for the rules.
          He said all time greats. Tyson doesn't apply

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          • mickey malone
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            #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Someone else has mentioned Zivic, the man in his Avatar.

            He was one of the dirtiest.

            Not an ATG though IMO.

            Saddler an obvious choice, one of the dirtiest ATG's there was.

            These guys blatently bend the rules, they aren't even subtle with it.

            Guys like Hopkins and Mayweather and others are more subtle when bending the rules.
            Have to disagree.. Zivic not an atg?

            One of deepest resumes in history.

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            • fight_professor
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              #16
              Originally posted by Rip Chudd
              He said all time greats. Tyson doesn't apply
              How is MT not an ATG?

              His achievements are immense.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                He said all time greats. Tyson doesn't apply
                im gonna disagree,,, he peak was only a few years, but he accomplished more at 20 years old then most heavys ever do....

                If you think salvador sanchez was ATG, then you have to think Tyson was,,,

                Both had very short peaks at the top for different reasons, but both were absolute monsters at their peak

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  im gonna disagree,,, he peak was only a few years, but he accomplished more at 20 years old then most heavys ever do....

                  If you think salvador sanchez was ATG, then you have to think Tyson was,,,

                  Both had very short peaks at the top for different reasons, but both were absolute monsters at their peak
                  His accomplishments while young are impressive, I guess it's more so where as an ATG you would rank him, when I think of atg's I think of top ten at that weight and mike doesn't fall in that top ten for me

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mickey malone
                    Have to disagree.. Zivic not an atg?

                    One of deepest resumes in history.
                    It's arguable, sure. He beat some great fighters. I wouldn't say so though myself, HOF worthy of course but I don't think I'd consider him an ATG. Borderline perhaps?

                    Definitely don't agree that he has one of the deepest resume's in history though. unless you're including his loss's?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      im gonna disagree,,, he peak was only a few years, but he accomplished more at 20 years old then most heavys ever do....

                      If you think salvador sanchez was ATG, then you have to think Tyson was,,,

                      Both had very short peaks at the top for different reasons, but both were absolute monsters at their peak
                      I dunno, I'd say Sanchez resume is much better than Tyson's.

                      I wouldn't consider Tyson an ATG.

                      ATG Heavyweight definitely but not an ATG P4P.

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