How many titles would robinson won today ?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I will look later to see if I think you are right on that, particularly about depth, but you did mention the 90s olympians about a week ago compared to the 2000s olympians and I thought the best of the 2004 crop were probably better than any of the 90s although 1996 was strong.

1992 De La Hoya, Casamayor, McCullough, Byrd
1996, Mayweather, Reid, Jirov, Tarver, Wlad Klitschko
2000, Rigondeaux, Jermain Taylor, Erdei, Ibragimov,
2004, Rigondeaux, Gamboa, Khan, Golovkin, Direll, Ward, Povetkin

I think 2008 might even be a little early to tell

1992 you also have forrest i believe and go thru and see who has produced top level talent,,,

Oscar, casamoyer and byrd trump careers trump anything that the 2000s olympic classes have done,,

Ward and rigondeaux are the only ones i have seen, and cotto.. Those guys have reached the mountain top, GGG is close but not their yet,

And go thru the 60s and 70s olympic teams and you will see that there is a huge drop off in developed talent over the last decade, it may bounce back in the future, but right now i think the amateurs arent producing solid pros like it use to

great fighters like hearns and mosely didnt even make the olympic teams and if around today i think they would be locks

[Humean]

1992 you also have forrest i believe and go thru and see who has produced top level talent,,,

Oscar, casamoyer and byrd trump careers trump anything that the 2000s olympic classes have done,,

Ward and rigondeaux are the only ones i have seen, and cotto.. Those guys have reached the mountain top, GGG is close but not their yet,

And go thru the 60s and 70s olympic teams and you will see that there is a huge drop off in developed talent over the last decade, it may bounce back in the future, but right now i think the amateurs arent producing solid pros like it use to

great fighters like hearns and mosely didnt even make the olympic teams and if around today i think they would be locks

You are right about Forrest, I missed him as I was looking at those who medaled and he went out in the 1st round.

Jermain Taylor did become the lineal middleweight champ, so he did do something of note. Don't know how i'd balance Taylor's career with Byrd's.

Plenty of the great pro fighters have had very successful amateur careers but probably more have not. I mean the percentage of amateur boxers who medaled at the olympics who didn't go on to be a pro world champion must be very high. Although my thought on that may be misguided by the amount who never turned pro at all.

[Cardinal Buck]

@ Sugar I think you're overrating Byrd's accomplishments.

[Cardinal Buck]

Tsyzu is also relevant.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

@ Sugar I think you're overrating Byrd's accomplishments.

maybe, but byrd was a very skilled fighter, who like or not had a piece of the heavy belt for more than a few years,, compared to some of the recent olympians he did very well for himself,,
He was in an awful heavy division at the time with ruiz, byrd, brewster, ancient golata, mccline,
but he is more accomplished than khan or guys like that, only ward cotto and rigo have done better at the pro level in recent years

Tsyzu is also relevant.

yes he is, your correct on that,,,

[fight_professor]

SRR would win everything from 135-175 inclusive.

[Ben Bolt]

right now i think the amateurs arent producing solid pros like it use to

That's because the change of rules in amateur boxing after the Roy Jones-scandal in Seoul - amateur boxing and pro boxing became two completely different sports.

So, it's no wonder that today's amateurs face difficulties in assimilating the professional way of fighting.

Luckily, there are voices raised to turn back the clock and make amateur boxing to what it once was.

[Cardinal Buck]

That's because the change of rules in amateur boxing after the Roy Jones-scandal in Seoul - amateur boxing and pro boxing became two completely different sports.

So, it's no wonder that today's amateurs face difficulties in assimilating the professional way of fighting.

Luckily, there are voices raised to turn back the clock and make amateur boxing to what it once was.

Well, the amateur system is reverting back to being more like the pros. The big problem really is that Americans stopped winning the big events as frequently. If you cut the Americans out of the past Olympic classes where Americans won big, the other guys left really didn't go on to succeed as pros like the Americans did.

[mickey malone]

To hell with the BS belts can you imagine what he'd be EARNING today?

PPV would destroy ALL previous records and you could hold these fights in the Yankee Stadium and Cowboys Stadium! Robinson would draw a 100 thousand easily today because compared to the fighters that are on top today he would appear as a "Super Action Figure" hahahaha!

The guy was made of charisma and charm, he was riding in pink cadillacs before Elvis could pee in the potty!
Who the hell shipped their Cadillac to Europe for their overseas tour?
Ray.

To hell with the pink caddy too

He'd need an industrial pick-up just for his belts if he was fighting today

[Ben Bolt]

The big problem really is that Americans stopped winning the big events as frequently.

Comparing two of my favorite US Olympic teams, 1976 and 1984, there are two fights I would have enjoyed being settled in the amateur ring.

In lightweight, '76 Val Barker winner Howard Davis vs '84 Pernell Whitaker, and in light heavy, '76 Leon Spinks vs '84 Evander Holyfield.

As pros, Pernell and Evander are easy picks as winners. But I think the '76 Olympic versions of Davis and Spinks would have beaten their counterparts of '84.
Just a thought.