Your Boxing Hall of Fame ballot

[Scott9945]

I'm with you on Tiger Jack Fox. He was an absolute wrecker with enough skill to hang tight with (and/or beat) guys like Maxie Rosenbloom and Jersey Joe Walcott (KO 8!). Way underrated -- possibly a top 10 or 15 all-time light heavy.

You would think 150 wins and almost 100 KO's during a heavily racist era would impress the voters enough.

[Humean]

What a joke that neither Lytell or Booker are not even on the Ballot.

Two absolutely obvious choices for the HOF but instead we get the likes of Too Sharp Johnson and this year we will get Calzaghe.

You honestly think Lytell and Booker are more deserving than Calzaghe? Lytell and Booker were strong contenders in their day but there were others like them in that respect. Definitely not 'obvious choices'.

[Humean]

You would think 150 wins and almost 100 KO's during a heavily racist era would impress the voters enough.

The counter to that is the quality of the era at light heavyweight. What would you say were his best wins?

[Scott9945]

The counter to that is the quality of the era at light heavyweight. What would you say were his best wins?

His only wins over hall of famers would be Walcott and Rosenbloom. But he had plenty of wins over rated fighters of his time.

[IronDanHamza]

You honestly think Lytell and Booker are more deserving than Calzaghe? Lytell and Booker were strong contenders in their day but there were others like them in that respect. Definitely not 'obvious choices'.

Absolutely.

Booker beat ATG's in Moore and Williams and another HOF'er in Marshall.

All better than anything Calzaghe did in his career.

Lytell beat Williams, Cocoa Kid, Burley and was said to have robbed of a decision against Jake Lamotta along with many other top quality wins over the likes of Basora, Smith etc.

You mean to tell me a fighters with wins of this calibur isn't an obvious choice for the HOF?

Both Lytell and Booker are clear and obvious HOF level fighters and it's frankly a joke they have yet to be inducted.

And both clearly have better resume's than Calzaghe.

[IronDanHamza]

Can you give me a breakdown for lytell and booker,,, not terribly familiar with there accomplishments, i know them as fighters, but could you please give alittle info on resumes and such,,,, Thanks

I've done a little breakdown on the post above, that's really the small picture and just highlighting their best wins over ATG opposition.

Both did a lot more than I've listed and top quality and ranked opposition.

Lytell was an exceptional boxer, as was Booker.

I mean, Booker beat Archie Moore in his prime. Speaks for itself doesn't it? And it's not like it's a one hit wonder, he has a list of wins over ATG and HOF calibur.

Lytell was truley one of the MW's of his era, has wins over Williams, Burley, Kid and by all accounts was on the wrong end of a bad decision against Lamotta. And this is a small MW we're talking about.

That's a MW resume of Williams, Burley, Kid and Lamotta. Not bad ay?

Moved up to LHW and had a razor close fight with ATG LHW Harold Johsnon and a close fight with Archie Moore, two of the greatest Light Heavyweights to ever lace them up. A guy who never came even close to 170 lbs at this point in time.

How anyone can question their place in the HOF is beyond me.

Calzaghe get's in and these guy's don't? Despite their resumes being obviously superior?

[Ray Corso]

The HoF has become a popularity stop and thats ok with me. I think Gatti and Ward go in off their fights alone. As far as great fighters none of the names on the threads list are "great fighters"! Just because a fighter fights great in 2 of 50 fights doesn't mean he's great! An undefeated fighter who has cherry picked his entire record means nothing in regards to greatness.
Popularity on the other hand has its merits so put in Calzag and Prince just don't preach that their great fighters. Ray.

[Ben Bolt]

I'm still puzzled by that Hall of Shame-day when Jose Sulaiman was voted in.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I've done a little breakdown on the post above, that's really the small picture and just highlighting their best wins over ATG opposition.

Both did a lot more than I've listed and top quality and ranked opposition.

Lytell was an exceptional boxer, as was Booker.

I mean, Booker beat Archie Moore in his prime. Speaks for itself doesn't it? And it's not like it's a one hit wonder, he has a list of wins over ATG and HOF calibur.

Lytell was truley one of the MW's of his era, has wins over Williams, Burley, Kid and by all accounts was on the wrong end of a bad decision against Lamotta. And this is a small MW we're talking about.

That's a MW resume of Williams, Burley, Kid and Lamotta. Not bad ay?

Moved up to LHW and had a razor close fight with ATG LHW Harold Johsnon and a close fight with Archie Moore, two of the greatest Light Heavyweights to ever lace them up. A guy who never came even close to 170 lbs at this point in time.

How anyone can question their place in the HOF is beyond me.

Calzaghe get's in and these guy's don't? Despite their resumes being obviously superior?

Thanks Dan,, yeah after reading your breakdown, those 2 guys def deserve to be in or at least on the ballot,,, thanks man

The HoF has become a popularity stop and thats ok with me. I think Gatti and Ward go in off their fights alone. As far as great fighters none of the names on the threads list are "great fighters"! Just because a fighter fights great in 2 of 50 fights doesn't mean he's great! An undefeated fighter who has cherry picked his entire record means nothing in regards to greatness.
Popularity on the other hand has its merits so put in Calzag and Prince just don't preach that their great fighters. Ray.

Good post,, i totally agree,,, Its not called the hall of skills, or hall of elite fighters,,, its the hall of fame,, some guys get fame because of their skills like pernell and hopkins,, others get fame by being in a bunch of wars like gatti,,,,,

[BattlingNelson]

I voted Calzaghe, DLH, DM and Trinidad.

3 of those are likely shoe-ins. DM sadly is not. Him not fighting in the US ensures that most decisionmakers will not vote for him. They'd vote for Virgil Hill but not Michalszewski.

I didn't vote for Curry. Did he really do enough? He beat McCrory and Colin Jones, but lost decisively in a major upset to Honeyghan and a brutal KO loss at the hands of McCallum. I cannot see him get in.