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  • Ben Bolt
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    Klitschko vs Povetkin ...

    … yes, the fight is history now, so it belongs in this section.
    Most of us agree that Wlad Klitschko is the true heavy champ of the world.
    But, our “dear” alphabet organizations may soon argue that that isn’t the case (WBC already does).

    From James Figg and forwards, we can (almost) draw a linear shift of the heavyweight crown, from 1719 until the day of Lennox Lewis’ retirement.
    In other divisions, we can draw a list of linear champs from the early 1900s to the 1980s. That’s when WBC, WBA and IBF started to flourish, and later the WBO.

    It’s a shame, that we today take these corrupt organizations’ sayings for true. What it’s all about, steeling money from the fighters – through sanction fees – and transferring money to greedy businessmen.

    No other sport accept multiple ‘world’ champions (in the same division) as boxing does. And that’s why people tend to laugh at our sport nowadays.

    If boxing is going to revive its reputation, we’d better find a better alternative to the alphabet crooks who are now ruling the sport.

    Why is it so hard to establish an independent, international organization that care for honest sportsmanship?
    Last edited by Ben Bolt; 10-05-2013, 05:03 PM.
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    Come up with a quick 300 million and start your own federation!

    Instead of that maybe the sport gets lucky with a Heavyweight champ with Talent!! Then with the appropriate backing you can smoke out the alphabet crowd and have some semblance of a fair and even playing field.........right!
    hahahahaha!!!!................ain't happening you see boxing isn't a sport, its a business how do you think we have so many "stars" who barely box anymore and never fight?

    Theres very few real fighters like Marquez or Pacman or Bradley and theres even fewer really fans who can tell the difference between exciting match ups and glorified spar sessions. Ray

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      #3
      Originally posted by Ben Bolt

      It’s a shame, that we today take these corrupt organizations’ sayings for true.
      I don't. Lineal/Ring champs is all I recognize.

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      • Ben Bolt
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        #4
        Originally posted by Ray Corso
        boxing isn't a sport, its a business
        I'm afraid you're right. I just wish boxing was considered as a sport again.

        If Mr. Figg had met Mr. Sulaiman, I bet he had let his punches flurry.
        Last edited by Ben Bolt; 10-05-2013, 05:22 PM.

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        • Ben Bolt
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          #5
          Originally posted by SBleeder
          Lineal/Ring champs is all I recognize.
          Yep, I stick to The Ring too.

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          • Humean
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            #6
            Originally posted by Ben Bolt
            I'm afraid you're right. I just wish boxing was considered as a sport again.

            If Mr. Figg had met Mr. Sulaiman, I bet he had let his punches flurry.
            There was no golden age, if anything boxing is considered more a sport today than it ever has. The alphabet titles actually give fighters more options. You get a fairer shake today than you ever have.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Humean
              There was no golden age, if anything boxing is considered more a sport today than it ever has.
              You must be young, my friend. Not long ago, there WAS a golden age when everyone (also those who disliked boxing) knew the name of the heavyweight champion of the world.

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              • Humean
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                #8
                Originally posted by Ben Bolt
                You must be young, my friend. Not long ago, there WAS a golden age when everyone (also those who disliked boxing) knew the name of the heavyweight champion of the world.
                How did that make boxing more a sport than a business, or entertainment etc?

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                  Humean, let’s say you are the best lightweight in the world. And to prove that, you’ll face the next best lightweight in a title fight. Your camp settles a deal with your opponent’s camp, and a promoter who stages the fight. Everythings clear, we all know this is the real deal. News journalists around the World (including The Ring) agree that this is for the undisputed title.

                  But then, WBC:s Mr. Sulaiman walks in and says, that if you doesn’t pay him $50.000, he will not recognize this fight as for the World Title (but apparently, he thinks it's a legitimate title fight if he gets $50.000). How did he get in the picture? Would you pay him? Would your achievement if winning not feel so good if you hadn’t Mr. Sulaiman’s approval.

                  The alphabet guys ain’t worthy ruling (or ruin) professional boxing.
                  Last edited by Ben Bolt; 10-05-2013, 06:48 PM.

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                  • Humean
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ben Bolt
                    Humean, let’s say you are the best lightweight in the world. And to prove that, you’ll face the next best lightweight in a title fight. Your camp settles a deal with your opponent’s camp, and a promoter who stages the fight. Everythings clear, we all know this is the real deal. News journalists around the World (including The Ring) agree that this is for the undisputed title.

                    But then, WBC:s Mr. Sulaiman walks in and says, that if you doesn’t pay him $50.000, he will not recognize this fight as for the World Title. How did he get in the picture? Would you pay him? Would your achievement if winning not feel so good if you hadn’t Mr. Sulaiman’s approvement.

                    The alphabet guys ain’t worthy ruling (or ruin) professional boxing.
                    Tell me the time when the champion at any particular weight wasn't routinely contentious? Even in that comparatively brief period during the 40s and 50s when there was more often only one champion there was still a lot of dispute, partly because of the manner in which the championship was held to make Frankie Carbo money.

                    Why do the sanctioning bodies endure? Why do boxers pay the sanctioning fees? Surely the answer is that they do provide the service that boxers pay them for, the legitimacy of being a world champion. Boxers do not have to fight for these belts if they do not want to. Why is there more than one organization conferring world champions? The reason is to stop what happened in the past where champs could hold the belt hostage. I think it is the slightly weird nature of this sport compared to other sports that has given rise to the differences between boxing and other sports in terms of organization. The fact is that fighters want the freedom to choose who they want to fight which, when you think about it, is different from other sports.

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