Are long arms an advantage in boxing?

[greeh]

So your saying floyd could beat the klitchkos, with the right strategy,,,

if this was the case, then why even have weight classes,,,,

"all pyhsical advantages can be neurtalized" that is an apparent over-simplification

No, he didn't say that. But I'll give you a example:

Miguel Canto was small, even for a flyweight, but he could outjab and outbox his opponents even if he was several inches shorter both in height and reach. This thanks to good ring generalship and strategy.

/greeh

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No, he didn't say that. But I'll give you a example:

Miguel Canto was small, even for a flyweight, but he could outjab and outbox his opponents even if he was several inches shorter both in height and reach. This thanks to good ring generalship and strategy.

/greeh

He did say that,, but besides the point

yes good technique will trump everytime,,,

But if skills are equal, then i think reach and height to play a major role,,,
like the saying goes,, a great little man can beat a good big guy,, but a great big man will beat a great small man,,,,,

Miguel canto was a great ring general as has better skillwise than nearly anyone he fought,,, but i think he would be hard pressed to do it to another guy equal in skill but who was taller, and more reach

[leathernvouges]

I think it all depends on how the fighter fights. I think the shorter fighter has the advantage if he is a pressure fighter, but if the opponent is tall, has good footwork and a good quick jab he should b the winner. Physical advantages should b used, i could remember thinking b4 the k.o last night "why is mares fighting on the outside" because he couldn't hit Gonzales from that distance and it was an effective range for any power shot Gonzales could land, if the fight would've been more of an inside fight it would've been effective power shot range for mares but maybe to close for Gonzales punches to hurt him. Mayweather uses his freakishly long arms as maybe his best advantage but just imagine if rigondeaux being a counter puncher had to fight someone that had a long reach advantage and a good jab and he had to get inside instead of just waiting to counter. So it all depends on how u use what u have

[greeh]

He did say that,, but besides the point

yes good technique will trump everytime,,,

But if skills are equal, then i think reach and height to play a major role,,,
like the saying goes,, a great little man can beat a good big guy,, but a great big man will beat a great small man,,,,,

Miguel canto was a great ring general as has better skillwise than nearly anyone he fought,,, but i think he would be hard pressed to do it to another guy equal in skill but who was taller, and more reach

Once more, no. He didn't say that Mayweather could beat Klitschko.
Miguel Canto fought in a great flyweight era. Don't say something else.

/greeh

[Panamaniac]

lol... okay buddy... I was just giving you a hard time about the over-simplification thing...

Fair enough, but the problem with the written word, it's sometimes hard to detect kidding unless so stated within text. This doesn't work for all, but I often use icons ( ) to denote attitude.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Once more, no. He didn't say that Mayweather could beat Klitschko.
Miguel Canto fought in a great flyweight era. Don't say something else.

/greeh

ok, so if miguel canto fights a guy with same skill level but that dude is longer and taller,,,, the taller longer guy would win....

yes canto fought in a great era, but he was nearly 100% better in ring generalship than anyone he fought,,,,,
Great skills beat or neurtalize size but what about when skills are the same,,
floyd and hearns have great skillsets, both welters, but floyd wtih all his amazing skill wouldnt win a 12 round decision over hearns.... yet floyd has all the skills you want...

[greeh]

ok, so if miguel canto fights a guy with same skill level but that dude is longer and taller,,,, the taller longer guy would win....

yes canto fought in a great era, but he was nearly 100% better in ring generalship than anyone he fought,,,,,
Great skills beat or neurtalize size but what about when skills are the same,,
floyd and hearns have great skillsets, both welters, but floyd wtih all his amazing skill wouldnt win a 12 round decision over hearns.... yet floyd has all the skills you want...

Define what you mean with same skill level? Do you mean a copy of Canto with just a few more inches in reach and height? Or do you mean a fighter with a high skill level, but maybe with strenghts in other areas, for example fighting on the inside?

/greeh

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Define what you mean with same skill level? Do you mean a copy of Canto with just a few more inches in reach and height? Or do you mean a fighter with a high skill level, but maybe with strenghts in other areas, for example fighting on the inside?

/greeh

Hard to define,,, sorry if thats a lame cop-out,,

my only point is that if guys are both extremely skilled, maybe in different areas but both have p4p type skills,,, then height and reach could be the deciding factor...

I think of shane mosely who was a top p4p skill guy but he couldnt get past vernon forrest's reach and height,,,, and same thing when shane fought winky,,,

If ifs just a tall power puncher like corrales, and he fights a floyd, then yes height and reach wont matter,,,,

I just think it matters when both guys are equally skilled ala shane-forrest...
I dont think forrest beats him that easily if reachs and height were the same...

Does that make any sense,, sorry if im not clear

[greeh]

Hard to define,,, sorry if thats a lame cop-out,,

my only point is that if guys are both extremely skilled, maybe in different areas but both have p4p type skills,,, then height and reach could be the deciding factor...

I think of shane mosely who was a top p4p skill guy but he couldnt get past vernon forrest's reach and height,,,, and same thing when shane fought winky,,,

If ifs just a tall power puncher like corrales, and he fights a floyd, then yes height and reach wont matter,,,,

I just think it matters when both guys are equally skilled ala shane-forrest...
I dont think forrest beats him that easily if reachs and height were the same...

Does that make any sense,, sorry if im not clear

It's hard to define, I know. I think I understand a little bit though.
But don't forget that styles make fights.

/greeh

[Dynamite76]

If you're long and fast, you can do serious damage.See Greg Page.