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  • #11
    joe frazier comes to mind,ricky hatton in more recent times.k9 bundrage

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    • #12
      rocky marciano....lucas mattyshee

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      • #13
        The early version of Dennis Andries was a very, very basic fighter indeed who solely relied on a never-say-die heart, brute strength and fitness. The good news for Dennis is that he had these basic buliding blocks in spades.

        Tommy Hearns hit Andries flush with just about every shot in the book, full-force and seemingly at will. The fight was like watching Hearns pepper a barndoor with a ******* from a range of five yards. All Andries had to offer was grit and the conditioning to keeping getting back-up.

        To his credit, Dennis got slicker when he became a Kronk fighter himself (post Hearns) but I can still just about recall the first version of Andries and the old school commentators like Gutteridge and Carpenter being gobsmacked that Andries had managed to win the WBC title.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Bodyshot3 View Post
          The early version of Dennis Andries was a very, very basic fighter indeed who solely relied on a never-say-die heart, brute strength and fitness. The good news for Dennis is that he had these basic buliding blocks in spades.

          Tommy Hearns hit Andries flush with just about every shot in the book, full-force and seemingly at will. The fight was like watching Hearns pepper a barndoor with a ******* from a range of five yards. All Andries had to offer was grit and the conditioning to keeping getting back-up.

          To his credit, Dennis got slicker when he became a Kronk fighter himself (post Hearns) but I can still just about recall the first version of Andries and the old school commentators like Gutteridge and Carpenter being gobsmacked that Andries had managed to win the WBC title.
          Yeah I remember watching the Andries-Harding fights. They both fought hard, but it was obvious that they were well below elite status despite being in title fights.

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          • #15
            this one i dont think ever got a world belt but seemed like he made a ton of money in upstate ny, joe mesi. come to think of it, savarese made some good money for having average ability. iran barkley won world belts in at least 3 divisions all on cavin cats heads in, very limited reflexes or speed. u know?

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            • #16
              Benny Paret might not have been the most skilled boxer, but he was always willing to take 10 shots to land one.
              Carmen Basilio and Jake LaMotta also had to take a lot of punches to get wins.
              But it all depends on what you think you see when you watch them fight or what people say who boxed them. Quite a lot people said Basilio is a "punching bag" while he himself said he is riding most of those punches and barely got hit flush.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by BlueBaureit99 View Post
                Benny Paret might not have been the most skilled boxer, but he was always willing to take 10 shots to land one.
                Carmen Basilio and Jake LaMotta also had to take a lot of punches to get wins.
                But it all depends on what you think you see when you watch them fight or what people say who boxed them. Quite a lot people said Basilio is a "punching bag" while he himself said he is riding most of those punches and barely got hit flush.
                You are wrong on LaMotta, for one thing he had one of the greatest defences in the history of the middleweight division. Watch his fights and watch how good his defence is, he tended to neglect his defence as the rounds wore on when he'd open up and rely a lot more on his chin. Also LaMotta was a great body puncher with both hands and had a really impressive jab. Basilio was a lot easier to hit than LaMotta, although he did roll with the punches a bit better than people think.

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                • #18
                  basilio was a punching bag who somehow repeatedly got inside n scored on the greatest of all time sugar ray. might not have been so hard to hit but dont tell me he didnt have skills. u wanna know how a short guy can get to a taller faster guy? check basilio's fight with robinson

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                  • #19
                    also, about andries, all i saw in him was a punching machine, very little boxing skill but just a blowswappin fool , harding was a lighthittin volume puncher who could eat shots like candy. theirs was an example of two cats makin it happen by being the right match for each other. neither was in the top tier of 175 at the time even tho they battled for the belt

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                    • #20
                      I always liked Iran Barkley, but never really thought much of him as a fighter. One of those guys whose sum was greater than his parts. He took out Hearns the 1st time and beat him more clearly than the scores showed in the rematch. I also thought Barkley deserved the decision against Duran. Barkley struggled and got dropped, and it was an older Duran, but Barkley still rightfully won in my view. Duran got a sentimental verdict in that fight.

                      Barkley was one of those tough journeyman types who managed to find a higher gear when he needed to. But on the whole, he wasn't really that good. Still, he managed titles in 3 divisions and what should be 3 wins imo vs ATG's.

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