Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

in modern boxing

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • in modern boxing

    whats more of an impressive feat

    to dominate a division for a decade with numerous defenses, fighting the best

    or moving up in weight classes and capturing world titles

  • #2
    In this current era, dominating a division is more impressive. With so few lbs and so many titles to pick from, moving up in weight isn't quite what Henry Armstrong accomplished.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
      In this current era, dominating a division is more impressive. With so few lbs and so many titles to pick from, moving up in weight isn't quite what Henry Armstrong accomplished.
      Full-heartily agree.

      With as many belts as we have in each division in this era of boxing, capturing titles doesn't necessarily to fighting quality competition.

      The way I see it, if an athlete is going up in weight, and he's in his early to mid 20's, it's probably because he's growing into his body frame and feels more comfortable at a higher weight, a weight his body demands. When cutting weight and drying yourself out becomes too much and begins to hinder both your boxing and athletic ability, then that's a cue. Nobody in this day and age is jumping weight classes to only fight the best without shooting for a payday instead of a title shot. Well, at least on a consistent basis.

      It's not so much capturing a title at the weight class, it's who you fought and continue to move up in weight.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
        In this current era, dominating a division is more impressive. With so few lbs and so many titles to pick from, moving up in weight isn't quite what Henry Armstrong accomplished.
        agreed ////////

        Comment


        • #5
          Depends entirely on the competition beaten.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
            In this current era, dominating a division is more impressive. With so few lbs and so many titles to pick from, moving up in weight isn't quite what Henry Armstrong accomplished.
            Or even what Leonard, Hearns and Duran accomplished.

            Comment


            • #7
              Agreed and also when you beat them, if they're still good or in their prime. I'd say it also depends on which titles. If you're just collecting one alphabet belt each on your way up, not that impressive, but if you get a few Ring/lineal titles, that's still a pretty good feat. I'm still more impressed by someone that can stick around in one class and clear it out though and/or have many defenses, like a Holmes or a Hopkins.

              Comment


              • #8
                The multitude of belts avalible today is ridiculous so their value is far deminished!
                Winning over high calber fighters is always more impressive than titles!!
                Some of the greats competitors in boxings history either got their shot out of their prime time or simply were over looked!
                Your not consider top tier competitor until you have wins over the top guys!
                So remaining a top contender for a decade is very impressive!
                There are so-called champions today that couldn't be top ten contenders throughout a decade in the past!! The junior & super classe champs are a joke!
                Ray.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  In this current era, dominating a division is more impressive. With so few lbs and so many titles to pick from, moving up in weight isn't quite what Henry Armstrong accomplished.
                  Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                  Depends entirely on the competition beaten.
                  I'd say these two answers would be my answer.

                  Generally speaking, the Super/Junior Whatever-weights and alphabet soup titles have greatly diminished the feat of winning titles in multiple weight classes.

                  Odds are a decade long run at a particular weight class would be more impressive. However it is *possible* that you could end up fighting much weaker competition than someone who wins in multiple classes over a shorter period of time.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                    The multitude of belts avalible today is ridiculous so their value is far deminished!
                    Winning over high calber fighters is always more impressive than titles!!
                    Some of the greats competitors in boxings history either got their shot out of their prime time or simply were over looked!
                    Your not consider top tier competitor until you have wins over the top guys!
                    So remaining a top contender for a decade is very impressive!
                    There are so-called champions today that couldn't be top ten contenders throughout a decade in the past!! The junior & super classe champs are a joke!
                    Ray.
                    well said ray. To be considered the best you have to fight the best and that is harder to do nowadays for example if you are a wba champ you have to compete for contenders from other organization's let alone struggle to unifie the title. Sometimes you may have to move up in weight to find the better completion or because you outgrow the division. Also being unbeaten sometimes means you are avoiding the top fighter's.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X
                    TOP