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Floyd is P4P #2 ever after SRR?
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Originally posted by DeepSleep View PostThese "Pound For Pound" lists are absurd... Do I rate fighters based on resume or on skills? For example how do I compare Jack Johnson to Mike Tyson? They fought in totally different eras under totally different rules. Generally the Galveston Giant is viewed as higher up the pound for pound list than Iron Mike but the exact criteria is vague.
Are we weighting it based purely on resume? This seems silly since a guy who completely steamrolled a weak division will get neglected compared to a guy who fought and lost to greats...
Are we weighting based purely on skills? This seems dumb since it's hard to compare guys in different eras fighting different levels of competition.
Are we weighting based on who we think would win in a fight? This isn't logical since the rules of the sport are totally different than they were back in the day.
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So obviously resume wise, Floyd is not top 5. Maybe 10? The question I just thought of was skill wise, where would Floyd be ranked?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostLangford, Greb, Robinson, Armstrong, Charles, Pep, Leonard, Duran, Gans, Ray Leonard......the list goes on. Floyd is in the top 25 to 30. Pound for pound is not just your skillset, but also your resume. Floyd lacks that by a lot compared to many greats.
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resume bla bla bla so if he fought manny would his resume be up at top? not his fault he that much better then everyone else in his era
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Originally posted by NatiKid View Postresume bla bla bla
If you rank fighters on talent and not resume, you're basically ranking them on hypothetical situations and things that, for one reason or another, have never happened. Hindsight can be a wonderful thing sometimes, but in no way can it give a summation as accurate as actually basing a fighter's greatness on what he's achieved throughout his career.
It's not as if there's absolutely no-one out there for Floyd to face, either (a la the Klitschko's, who have been just damn unfortunate to be born in this era). There's fights that he could've taken in the past that could've enhanced his legacy, but through his own free will, chose not to take. I don't see why he should be rewarded for that.
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I'm not that high on Floyd but Aaron Pryor? Really? :thinking9: I swear Pryor is the poster boy for the guys who get post-career mileage out of "woulda', coulda', shoulda' (but ultimately didn't)". Pryor fans fans should just be thankful he never did step in the ring with Leonard or Hearns at Welterweight: That spared them the agony of seeing their idol get beat up and destroyed.
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