Marquez-Pac IV or Holyfield-Tyson 1...

[BKM-2010]

Assuming you have watched many of their fights, I don't see how you could not see it. It's ridiculously obvious who is the better fighter. It's Marquez, and to me, it's by a long shot.

Pacquiao's resume is superior? He has a resume that could be picked apart with very sound reasons to believe that it is not a good resume at all. H2H ranked higher than Marquez? Marquez has never legitimately lost to Pacquiao and most people who know boxing agree with that.

It's your opinion that I could never see eye to eye with, I am on the polar opposite end of your view.

Obviously your extreme bias won't see past it. Unlike you I can acknowledge that both men are evenly matched in their fights and they have both beaten eachother, but by no means did Marquez win all 4 fights or are the official results of the fights the most accurate. And Pacquiao would surely be better head to head as well. He would beat more different types of fighters and he has.

Of cource Pacquiao's resume is superior. It isn't even worth debating, nobody in their right mind would rank JMM above him based on resumes despite being an ATG. You're gonna have to go by potential which isn't worth as much in Boxing, because he hasn't even FACED anywhere near the competition Pacquiao has, let alone BEAT it.

[CarlosG815]

Obviously your extreme bias won't see past it. Unlike you I can acknowledge that both men are evenly matched in their fights and they have both beaten eachother, but by no means did Marquez win all 4 fights or are the official results of the fights the most accurate. And Pacquiao would surely be better head to head as well. He would beat more different types of fighters and he has.

Of cource Pacquiao's resume is superior. It isn't even worth debating, nobody in their right mind would rank JMM above him based on resumes despite being an ATG. You're gonna have to go by potential which isn't worth as much in Boxing, because he hasn't even FACED anywhere near the competition Pacquiao has, let alone BEAT it.

I have no reason to be bias - I just love boxing and it's great fighters. I have nothing to gain by being bias toward Pacquiao.

Please give me your view on Pacquiao's resume.

[The Surgeon]

Gotta go with Evander. Tyson looked the goods when he came back, if anything his legend had grown and he was a massive favourite over Holyfield even if he wasn't the fighter we hoped he was at that point. Marquez fought a great fight and scored a BRILLIANT one punch KO of a great fighter in Pacquaio but beating Tyson was bigger and better

Interestingly enough JMM vs Pac 4 is one of my favourite nights of boxing, Holyfield vs Tyson 1 is one of my worst!

[CarlosG815]

Gotta go with Evander. Tyson looked the goods when he came back, if anything his legend had grown and he was a massive favourite over Holyfield even if he wasn't the fighter we hoped he was at that point. Marquez fought a great fight and scored a BRILLIANT one punch KO of a great fighter in Pacquaio but beating Tyson was bigger and better

Interestingly enough JMM vs Pac 4 is one of my favourite nights of boxing, Holyfield vs Tyson 1 is one of my worst!

I feel the same way bro.

Love your youtube channel. I was happy to see that you pointed out in your pac jmm 4 post fight video that Pacquiao looked better than he did in any of the previous fights with Marquez and better than he did in any fight since Cotto. Most people seemed to leave that part out. The best version of Pacuiao we saw in years got KO'd cold.

[Ray Corso]

Evanders win and how it happened was shocking to most fans. However inside boxing people knew that Tysons bravado wasn't going to work against Evander. What was surprising was that Tyson QUIT on the fight because he knew he wasn't going to get over on Evander and choose to punk out!!

Juan win was because Manny made a "double feint" move and fell inside uncovered and got caught! Up until that mistake and the counter that counted they fought very evenly for YEARS!!! They hurt each other in every bout and Manny had Juan in deep water the round before the stoppage!!
Good fight, great win for Juan but these guys were evenly matched.
Tyson vs Evander was supposed to be a "no doubter"!! Ray.

[CarlosG815]

Evanders win and how it happened was shocking to most fans. However inside boxing people knew that Tysons bravado wasn't going to work against Evander. What was surprising was that Tyson QUIT on the fight because he knew he wasn't going to get over on Evander and choose to punk out!!

Juan win was because Manny made a "double feint" move and fell inside uncovered and got caught! Up until that mistake and the counter that counted they fought very evenly for YEARS!!! They hurt each other in every bout and Manny had Juan in deep water the round before the stoppage!!
Good fight, great win for Juan but these guys were evenly matched.
Tyson vs Evander was supposed to be a "no doubter"!! Ray.

I saw Manny make the same mistake that he makes in every fight, and had made constantly with Marquez in the 3rd fight and this fight.

It wasn't a double feint, but he would come in with his weak right hand, and follow it up with a left. Marquez knew it was coming and the stars aligned and he threw the weak right, pulled the left back to fire and had zero defense set up, and walked into a right hand that had everything behind it.

[Scott9945]

Evanders win and how it happened was shocking to most fans. However inside boxing people knew that Tysons bravado wasn't going to work against Evander. What was surprising was that Tyson QUIT on the fight because he knew he wasn't going to get over on Evander and choose to punk out!!

Juan win was because Manny made a "double feint" move and fell inside uncovered and got caught! Up until that mistake and the counter that counted they fought very evenly for YEARS!!! They hurt each other in every bout and Manny had Juan in deep water the round before the stoppage!!
Good fight, great win for Juan but these guys were evenly matched.
Tyson vs Evander was supposed to be a "no doubter"!! Ray.

You can make a case for Tyson quitting in their rematch, but Mike fought very gamely in the first fight. He took plenty of punishment before the ref stepped in.

[- Ram Raid -]

Before opening the thread I genuinely thought it was gonna be a question of the most tainted win. . . . . My faith in this sport has hit rock bottom.

[Scott9945]

Before opening the thread I genuinely thought it was gonna be a question of the most tainted win. . . . . My faith in this sport has hit rock bottom.

Is this a PED reference?

[- Ram Raid -]

Is this a PED reference?

. . . . unfortunately, yes.