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  • TysonBomb
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    #11
    Originally posted by Scott9945
    I always agreed with what Emannuel Steward said, "if McCall were winning he wouldn't have had a nervous breakdown during the fight". McCall seemed reasonably composed until he realized that this was a different Lennox Lewis he was facing.
    He was displaying classic withdrawal symptoms right at the ring entrance

    McCall with his head straight ALWAYS splatters Lewis' glass jaw over the canvas

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    • Scott9945
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      #12
      Originally posted by TysonBomb
      He was displaying classic withdrawal symptoms right at the ring entrance

      McCall with his head straight ALWAYS splatters Lewis' glass jaw over the canvas
      McCall was always crazy. Except for the one punch delivered with his eyes closed Lewis was a class above McCall.

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        #13
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        He was in rehab (crack addict) and Don King took him out and I guess he had a breakdown in the ring. I don't think anybody knows for certain but there was rumours that McCall was paid off to throw the fight in order to keep Tyson vs Lewis alive.

        The crying and such was actually quite common from McCall, he would often cry before fights and punch himself to psyche himself up.
        I have never seen any proof of this and this is the 1st time I have even heard mention of it...but I remember thinking at the time that his reactions were as if he had been forced to throw the fight...the way he has was talking as he he stood there and took punches.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Scott9945
          McCall was always crazy. Except for the one punch delivered with his eyes closed Lewis was a class above McCall.
          LOL that was the plan he went in with, to smash the jaw with the right hand. Was executed to perfection and Lewis proved that he was packing nothing but pure glass in that jaw. He timed it perfectly and had Lewis rolling around like a ******, stumbling to get up.

          Lewis couldn't even hurt him when he was spazzing out.

          He made a career of fighting drug addicts and past prime guys. Even the smallest amount of research on his career will reveal what Lewis and Steward were doing.

          He fought Tyrell Biggs in 1991, FOUR YEARS after Tyson broke him and wasted him.

          Fought Ruddock in 1992 after he was coming off a HELLACIOUS beating from Tyson where he fought 19 rounds with the man and suffered serious injuries, including a broken jaw and a busted rib.

          Fought Tony Tucker in '93 when he was unstable and on drugs at the time. Tyson soundly defeated him in '87 when he was at his best.

          Frank Bruno in '93. Frank was busting him up until Lewis pulled away. Less than spectacular performance. Tyson beat the better version of him in '89.

          And then we have Oliver McCall in '94 where he was KTFO by an above average puncher. McCall could **** but he wasn't a major puncher like others. He couldn't even handle Tyson's sparring partner after feasting on his left overs.

          Fought an HIV positive Morrison after that, a Ray Mercer who beat the hell out of him and even out jabbed him for 10 rounds. This Ray Mercer couldn't even beat an ancient Larry Holmes but gave Lewis hell where he was awarded with a gift decision. Fought Andrew Golota who was suffering from local anesthetic toxicity. Fights McCall again and this time by forcing him out of rehab to get in the ring. Has a scare against Shannon Briggs and squeaked by an old Holyfield.

          Dropped two belts for ducking Ruiz and Byrd and got KTFO by Hasim Rahman. He was literally drifting in and out of consciousness by a single punch. Then finally fights a Tyson only there for a paycheck. Ends it by losing 4-2 rounds against Vitali Klitschko and ducks him into retirement.

          Tyson left overs, bums, drug addicts, gift decisions, zombie Tyson and ducking into retirement.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Scott9945
            I always agreed with what Emannuel Steward said, "if McCall were winning he wouldn't have had a nervous breakdown during the fight". McCall seemed reasonably composed until he realized that this was a different Lennox Lewis he was facing.
            I sometimes think is more the case to be honest. McCall was often crying and going nuts in fights. He was crazy. It wasn't withdrawal symptoms, unless he was withdrawing in every fight he ever had. The guy was just ****ing loopy.

            However, if he was messed up as bad as people say, he would have been showing all these symptoms all the way through the fight, and long before it, rather than just during the period when he seemed to realise that he wasn't going to win. He was perfectly normal (if you can say that of McCall at any point) for the first few rounds until things were obviously not going to go his way and he was facing someone much more determined.

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              #16
              Originally posted by TysonBomb
              LOL that was the plan he went in with, to smash the jaw with the right hand. Was executed to perfection and Lewis proved that he was packing nothing but pure glass in that jaw. He timed it perfectly and had Lewis rolling around like a ******, stumbling to get up.

              Lewis couldn't even hurt him when he was spazzing out.

              He made a career of fighting drug addicts and past prime guys. Even the smallest amount of research on his career will reveal what Lewis and Steward were doing.

              He fought Tyrell Biggs in 1991, FOUR YEARS after Tyson broke him and wasted him.

              Fought Ruddock in 1992 after he was coming off a HELLACIOUS beating from Tyson where he fought 19 rounds with the man and suffered serious injuries, including a broken jaw and a busted rib.

              Fought Tony Tucker in '93 when he was unstable and on drugs at the time. Tyson soundly defeated him in '87 when he was at his best.

              Frank Bruno in '93. Frank was busting him up until Lewis pulled away. Less than spectacular performance. Tyson beat the better version of him in '89.

              And then we have Oliver McCall in '94 where he was KTFO by an above average puncher. McCall could **** but he wasn't a major puncher like others. He couldn't even handle Tyson's sparring partner after feasting on his left overs.

              Fought an HIV positive Morrison after that, a Ray Mercer who beat the hell out of him and even out jabbed him for 10 rounds. This Ray Mercer couldn't even beat an ancient Larry Holmes but gave Lewis hell where he was awarded with a gift decision. Fought Andrew Golota who was suffering from local anesthetic toxicity. Fights McCall again and this time by forcing him out of rehab to get in the ring. Has a scare against Shannon Briggs and squeaked by an old Holyfield.

              Dropped two belts for ducking Ruiz and Byrd and got KTFO by Hasim Rahman. He was literally drifting in and out of consciousness by a single punch. Then finally fights a Tyson only there for a paycheck. Ends it by losing 4-2 rounds against Vitali Klitschko and ducks him into retirement.

              Tyson left overs, bums, drug addicts, gift decisions, zombie Tyson and ducking into retirement.

              We get it. You hate Wlad. You Hate Lennox. You hate Vitali. And you diss each and every one because of weird connect the dots routines you do with them and Tyson...


              You will also at times take the side of Lewis to further bash Vitali/Wlad whenever the thread suits your agenda. (And vice versa)

              I will not diss Tyson or go against your posts though because your Klittard bashing here and on ESB still out weight your Lennox bashing.

              Because this is the history section of NSB, I will also not post my Lennox Facts.

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                #17
                Lewis was better prepared and McCall fell apart with disappointment.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Scott9945
                  McCall was always crazy. Except for the one punch delivered with his eyes closed Lewis was a class above McCall.
                  The fact that Lewis was a better fighter is not in debate.

                  I though disagree with your analysis of the fight and McCall's breakdown.

                  Lewis won the first, McCall the second , the third started well for Lewis, but was nothing like a massacre when McCall started to act crazy Yes there is a good right hand from Lewis, to which McCall reacted with a chicken dance; yet the fight was still competitive, a 2-1 in a rather slow paced fight.

                  We cannot know for sure, but it seems to me that McCall was in no mental condition to fight and that Lewis' performance had little or no impact on it.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by B-Bomber
                    The fact that Lewis was a better fighter is not in debate.

                    I though disagree with your analysis of the fight and McCall's breakdown.

                    Lewis won the first, McCall the second , the third started well for Lewis, but was nothing like a massacre when McCall started to act crazy Yes there is a good right hand from Lewis, to which McCall reacted with a chicken dance; yet the fight was still competitive, a 2-1 in a rather slow paced fight.

                    We cannot know for sure, but it seems to me that McCall was in no mental condition to fight and that Lewis' performance had little or no impact on it.
                    Don't forget though that McCall reacting to a punch like that is like most fighters flopping around the ring doing the Judah dance. He was hurt, and it had rarely happened to him like that before. The only other time I can recall him being slightly staggered was against Bruno.

                    It would have had quite an impact on his sorry mental state.

                    Nearly everything that is stated by a fighters team after a fight has to be taken with not just a grain, but a large pinch of salt. They need to protect that fighter any way they can. McCall was crazy, but I''m sure he was just as crazy for other big fights that he won when nothing was said about his mental state.

                    Either way, he seemed ok until he got hurt and was clearly losing. Lennox was teeing off on him before he started flipping out. It would have happened to anyone that had enough skill and firepower to do that in my opinion.

                    We'll never actually know for certain though. All we do know is that McCall beat Lewis in their first fight, while also completely crazy, and Lewis beat him in the rematch, while McCall was still crazy.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Deathknight88
                      We get it. You hate Wlad. You Hate Lennox. You hate Vitali. And you diss each and every one because of weird connect the dots routines you do with them and Tyson...


                      You will also at times take the side of Lewis to further bash Vitali/Wlad whenever the thread suits your agenda. (And vice versa)

                      I will not diss Tyson or go against your posts though because your Klittard bashing here and on ESB still out weight your Lennox bashing.

                      Because this is the history section of NSB, I will also not post my Lennox Facts.
                      Oh please do. Facts are what the history section is actually for.

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