Could somebody defend Mike Tyson as an ATG for me?

[ArtThouFurious?]

Could you imagine what would happen if devestatingly concussive punchers like Bruno, Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tucker & Razor Ruddock

Tony Tucker....a devastatingly concussive puncher? Nope, not even close.

Wlad's chin is made of wet toilet paper... In the context of a fight with Wlad, he qualifies as a devastingly concussive puncher. Hell! His power might even be 1up'd to discombobulatingly devastating considering the opponent.

[res]

That's cool, so I'll remember to put "All Star NBA player" on my resume from now on. Because, hey, if things had shook out differently, it might have happened, right?

Nah, I think Tyson actually had the raw skill to get it done lol. But I agree with you. You judge some one as an all time great based on what they literally achieved.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

I know this. I understand why he's so famous. But please defend him as a historically GREAT fighter to me.

u cant defend it he was just exciting, dominant, and the product of a pretty washed up era! why he never fought bowe and lennox in thier primes was wierd but oh well! but to be fair he had some good wins (tillis, ruddock, smith, hurrican mcneeley) jk with mcneeley lol

[FightScorer]

Douglas's top wins

_______________________________

Prime UNDEFEATED Mike Tyson
Oliver McCall
Trevor Berbick
Greg Page
Tex Cobb



McCall's top wins
_______________________________

Prime UNDEFEATED Lennox Lewis
Francesco Damiani
Bruce Seldon
Oleg Maskaev
Henry Akinwande


Now, for some comedy relief...


Wlad's top wins
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Chris Byrd
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev
David Haye "peeleft:
Samuel Peter
Jameel McCline
Calvin Brock
Sultan Ibragimov
Tony Thompson


So, a bum "that beat nobody" & a guy who was "never much" beat a level opposition that is greater than a supposed ATG?

McCall & Douglas aren't even close to being ATG's, but yet have resumes that are easily comparable to Wlad's if not GREATER, which tells you Wlad isn't an ATG at all and several leagues below Tyson.

But of course, arbitrary, randiomly compiled statistics and paper trinket defenses are more important than proving yourself against a staunch level of opposition, in Klitschko land.




So is Audley Harrison



fix'd....



fix'd....



Cool story, brah



But yet, doesn't have one single defense of a legitimate, lineal/undisputed Heavyweight crown.

But congratulations on racking up a bunch of meaningless alphabet soup title defenses against nothing but B & C level opposition, he'll surely reach a Sven Ottke level of greatness in due time.

You just destroyed any remaining Klittards on this site.

Masterful. Hopkins Like. Schooling Klittards like Hopkins did Pavlik

[FightScorer]

Wladimir's best win was a 20 fight Ike's KO Victim.

Ike in 20 fights brutally destroyed PRIME Chris Byrd 10x worst than Wlad ever did.


I love it how Wlad fans is lying that he wasn't in his prime against Sanders and Brewster. LOOK AT HOW He dominated everyone up to Sanders. Wladimir was in his full prime, Sanders knocked out Wlad in his prime. Brewster knocked him out again.

Wlad is perhaps at his PEAK now, but a lot of you idiots fail to understand the difference between PRIME and PEAK.

Prime= Wlad vs Sanders, Wlad vs Brewster
PEAK= Wlad vs Haye, Wlad vs Wach

actually Wlad was knocked out a third time, I forgot the guy's name but he was some journeyman.

No nvm I got it

[FightScorer]

This is the funniest thing about Wladimir.

People say Mccall was a journeyman
People say Douglas was a journeyman
They weren't.
ROSS PURRITY WAS AN ACTUAL JOURNEYMAN.

[jabsRstiff]

Wlad Klitschko is not worth all of that time or attention.

[fight_professor]

Mike - you had to experience it. He was gifted - amazing hand speed, power and combo punching. He did win the belt younger then anyone else AND unified the division. He was dominant until Douglas.

Tyson was so exciting, so magnetic. On an 'achievements' list - he may not rank top 10 (I put him in my top 10), but in h2h Tyson is easily a top 10 HW. Few men have had those gifts - and seasoned boxing watchers know he'd beat most HW in history.

[BigStereotype]

Douglas's top wins

_______________________________

Prime UNDEFEATED Mike Tyson
Oliver McCall
Trevor Berbick
Greg Page
Tex Cobb



McCall's top wins
_______________________________

Prime UNDEFEATED Lennox Lewis
Francesco Damiani
Bruce Seldon
Oleg Maskaev
Henry Akinwande


Now, for some comedy relief...


Wlad's top wins
_______________________________

Chris Byrd
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev
David Haye "peeleft:
Samuel Peter
Jameel McCline
Calvin Brock
Sultan Ibragimov
Tony Thompson


So, a bum "that beat nobody" & a guy who was "never much" beat a level opposition that is greater than a supposed ATG?

McCall & Douglas aren't even close to being ATG's, but yet have resumes that are easily comparable to Wlad's if not GREATER, which tells you Wlad isn't an ATG at all and several leagues below Tyson.

But of course, arbitrary, randiomly compiled statistics and paper trinket defenses are more important than proving yourself against a staunch level of opposition, in Klitschko land.




So is Audley Harrison



fix'd....



fix'd....



Cool story, brah



But yet, doesn't have one single defense of a legitimate, lineal/undisputed Heavyweight crown.

But congratulations on racking up a bunch of meaningless alphabet soup title defenses against nothing but B & C level opposition, he'll surely reach a Sven Ottke level of greatness in due time.

I don't even agree with you and I think that was the most devastating post I've seen in a while. I'll concede, man. Well done.

[The Big Dunn]

i got nothing but respect for Tyson. But i remember watching his fights at my boys house. His pops and the "old heads" would always talk about how "easy" it would be to beat Mike with the jab and movement.

They respected his power but never held him in the esteem they held ali, frazier, norton, even Holmes.