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    Could he have been a better fighter is he did not underestimate duran?

  • #2
    Originally posted by rightsideup View Post
    Could he have been a better fighter is he did not underestimate duran?
    He didn't underestimate Duran. Duran was just special that night. Moore couldn't have done anything to change that. No amount of training could have stopped Duran from beating him.

    Sadly though, that beating ruined him. Before that he would have done well and been a champion for some time at 154. He'd have won some and lost some, but he had some good wins over a faded Wilfred Benitez, Ayub Kalaue, Charlie Weir and the undefeated champ Mihara.

    A bit more seasoning would have done him well, but his managers thought him ready after beating Kalule, Mihara, (two champs) Weir and Guiden (two top ten guys) for what everyone thought was an over the hill, fat, shot Duran. It turned out he wasn't.

    After that fight, he just wasn't the same. Even the Benitez win couldn't get him back to his previous form and then a couple of years later he was dead unfortunately. Sad. Managers can make or break a fighter and that was a case of breaking one.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
      ...After that fight, he just wasn't the same. Even the Benitez win couldn't get him back to his previous form and then a couple of years later he was dead unfortunately. Sad. Managers can make or break a fighter and that was a case of breaking one.
      Have any idea what he died of? I do know that referee Ernesto Magaña allowed Moore to take excessive punishment from Duran. He should've stopped the fight much earlier in the round. If memory serves me right, it wasn't until Moore's corner threw in the towel, that he intervened.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
        Have any idea what he died of? I do know that referee Ernesto Magaña allowed Moore to take excessive punishment from Duran. He should've stopped the fight much earlier in the round. If memory serves me right, it wasn't until Moore's corner threw in the towel, that he intervened.
        He was crushed by a car in his driveway.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
          Have any idea what he died of? I do know that referee Ernesto Magaña allowed Moore to take excessive punishment from Duran. He should've stopped the fight much earlier in the round. If memory serves me right, it wasn't until Moore's corner threw in the towel, that he intervened.
          He left his car running in the drive and went to the back to do something, the car rolled back and crushed him to death in a freak accident. Barkley was claiming he was gonna do Duran for Moore but he got beat too
          In that Hands Of Stone Book Duran says when talking to someone at the time "You'd think I killed him (Moore) the way he's (Iran) talking! But its HIM im going to Kill!" Vintage Cholo

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          • #6
            I often wondered if Moore had gotten more experiance before winning the title how he would have done. At the time he was looking pretty good and there were concerns for Duran at the time because he supposedly was in over his head and was an underdog but in hindsight, Moore could have used more experiance IMO.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TBear View Post
              I often wondered if Moore had gotten more experiance before winning the title how he would have done. At the time he was looking pretty good and there were concerns for Duran at the time because he supposedly was in over his head and was an underdog but in hindsight, Moore could have used more experiance IMO.
              I couldn't agree more... Before the fight, he was champion with a mere 12 pro fights under his belt. If ever there was a red flag, that was it!

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              • #8
                I agree that Moore should have had more fights before winning the title, or, especially, fighting a guy like Duran. As a manager, your primary obligation to your fighter is to maximize the money he makes. You should bring him along ...but, I think, everybody will take the money 95% of the time.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
                  I couldn't agree more... Before the fight, he was champion with a mere 12 pro fights under his belt. If ever there was a red flag, that was it!
                  I remember at the time many considered Duran shot and would be a nice name on the younger and bigger Moore's resume. What a frightful beating that fight turned out to be. But most experts picked Moore to win.

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                  • #10
                    one expert picked duran , roberto himself

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