Ward vs dawson

[StarshipTrooper]

I like Dawson here, provided he isn't emaciated from coming down in weight. Will have to how he looks at the weigh in.

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[nachorjj]

if not less. remember, dawson never went into a single training camp weighing over 180lbs in his entire career. what ppl either fail to realize or choose to ignore is that dawson doesnt cut weight. he comes into camp at 177-180, loses a few pounds in camp and fights at the same weight he weighs in at.

he will be just as big as he always is against ward only he will cut weight to make 168, probably only 5-6lbs which isnt much for a Lt.HW. besides, chad stared his career at 160, hes been at these weights before and has cut much more weight to make 160 than he will do to make 168 against ward.

i think its obvoius why he made this fight. the weight is a non issue as is the venue. dawson aint scared to fight in somebody elses backyard like the true champion he is and making 168 wont be a problem. ward is one of the top p4p fighters in the world, hes the true SMW champion and hes got alot of ppl thinking hes the next great thing in boxing. chad wants all those things for himself and hes gonna take it.



a catchweight would be a joke, we have two true world champion, champions not titlists. why would you make the fight at a catchweight where winning the belts would be tainted by the champion not being allowed to weigh in at the limit? ward is a champion and he is allowed to weight in at the championship limit, dawson is a challenger and he chose to challenge the champion for the title at that limit. a limit he can easily make, nothing unfair about that.

saying dawson will be drained to the bone is talking out of your ass, dude used to be a MW. he doesnt cut any weight at all to make 175, why would you assume he does? say he loses an extra 2lbs, then cuts 5lbs which is nothing for a man his size to make the weight. that wont drain him at all.

bute weights about as much in the ring for his s.mw fights as dawson does for his lt.hw fights, nobody is calling him drained. guys at 140 and lower cut more weight than dawson will have to cut in this fight.



thats just ignorant. you saying dawson does worse than bika and froch? this aint no punk ass mikkel kessler or allan green we talking bout. dawson will be wards toughest fight by far.

Pascal fighting inside outbox Dawson, Ward going to inside can outbox Dawson

[Cardinal Buck]

Dawson should've held out for Kessler or Froch. He's about to lose a decision.

[#1Assassin]

Pascal fighting inside outbox Dawson, Ward going to inside can outbox Dawson

first of all that was the single worst performance of dawsons career by far, its not fair to say he will lose based on that one fight alone. if you judge ward on his fight with bika you could say dawson wins 10 rounds to 2, but again thats not fair is it? you have to assess them over the course of their last couple of fights not just one and not their worst performance ever in particular.

second pascal didnt outbox dawson on the inside, he outworked him. and that was just early in the fight when dawson struggled to get shots off. pascal was never effective in the fight, he just threw punches which put dawson on the defensive and the crowd went wild while chad struggled to find his range and pull the trigger. he was looking too much for the perfect punch which isnt his style, hes a combination puncher and hes gon back to that since the pascal loss.

which btw wouldnt have been a loss if it wasnt for the hometown stoppage, dawson did figure him out and once he did he took complete control of the fight. he had an off night and had a hard time figuring out an akward opponent, once he did and was about to take the fight they pulled the plug prematurely bcuz of a cut. not unlike wards fight with bika except ward was at home and he was teh one getting away with stuff like elbows and whatnot. ward barely won that fight, he had an off night and had a hard time figuring out an akward opponent just like chad. if chad got those last rounds he would have pulled it out too.

chad is much better than the pascal fight, most importantly hes an excellent inside fighter when hes first and lets his hands go. thats the plan for the ward fight and andre wont have an easy time overcoming it. chad can beat him on the outside, andre will struggle to get inside and that alone will create problems. once hes into range dawsons bodyshots and right uppercut will give him hell, it wont be the same passive dawson from the pascal fight. dawson will be at his best which makes him a nightmare opponent for ward and if he doesnt beat him he will give him the hardest fight of his career.

[Earl-Hickey]

Pascal used ambush tactics from the outside, ward isn't explosive enough to do the same

[Scott9945]

Ward should be a decisive winner in this matchup, imo. His home and his weight. To be honest I'd even pick Ward at 175. I don't like watching Ward fight but he has a very effective style.

[Anthony342]

That fight intrigues me. Ward looked untouchable so far, but he never fought pariculary fast fighter, all of his best opponents were aggressive guys who liked to go forwad with not much of head movement, Chad brings completely different challange. The closer the fight gets, the more I'm leaning towards him. There were some question about his mental side, but I think that he may just not like the role of a favorite. When he was in his biggest fights against Adamek, Tarver first, rematch with Glen Johnson, fight with Hopkins, he was spectacular.
Ward is complete fighter, but when he is on the outside, he's just very good, not great. His speed is overrated and his right hand is also just good, will be huge disadvenage fighting a southpaw. Also, I believe first world class southpaw in his career?
If Chad manages to stay on the outside and keep high workrate I belive he can win close decision and man I hope it happens, I don't want Andre Ward on top.

Why not?..

[The Smash]

I don't like him. He's really good, but I don't like him at all.

If we were on NSB, I believe, at this point, protocol dictates someone should call you " a hater", or, even worse " a straight up hater". What exactly that means I'm still not sure.

[#1Assassin]

If we were on NSB, I believe, at this point, protocol dictates someone should call you " a hater", or, even worse " a straight up hater". What exactly that means I'm still not sure.

he isnt a hater at all, to dislike someone doesnt make you a hater as long as you are reasonable in giving them their fair due. a hater is someone who refuses to do just that, they dont like someone so regardless what they do it was the wrong choice. every opponent they fight, every performance they have its always something wrong with it, in their eyes they are never good fighters regardless what they achieve. some haters acctually know the guy they are hating on is good they just refuse to admit it.

[The Smash]

he isnt a hater at all, to dislike someone doesnt make you a hater as long as you are reasonable in giving them their fair due. a hater is someone who refuses to do just that, they dont like someone so regardless what they do it was the wrong choice. every opponent they fight, every performance they have its always something wrong with it, in their eyes they are never good fighters regardless what they achieve. some haters acctually know the guy they are hating on is good they just refuse to admit it.

I was being facetious. "Hater" is a term used by fools,, primarily on NSB, who have no idea how to have a rational discussion about anything.

And thanks to you I now have a definition. It's stuck in my head. Jesus. What if it doesn't come out? There forever? Well, then I'm coming for you Assassin - the hunter will become the hunted.