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[Welsh Jon]

You're right John.

A LOT of "WTF" moments

I don't know whether to laugh or cry though.

It's supposed to be a boxing publication for boxing fans, but it seems to be written by journalists without great knowledge of the history of the sport.

Either that or they expect their readership to be ignorant so they feel they have to put recognisable names like De La Hoya, Tyson and Calzaghe in instead of the likes of Rosenbloom, McFarland and Driscoll just so their readers don't feel lost.

Either way it's pretty depressing!

[Barn]

I happened to see a publication called "BOXING NEWS 100 GREATEST BOXERS OF ALL-TIME" and could not resist buying it.

I know such lists are impossible to get a consensus on, but I believe this one is a poor effort.

The list is as follows:

100. John Henry Lewis
99. Sonny Liston
98. Matthew Saad Muhammad
97. Jung-Koo Chang
96. Shane Mosely
95. Joe Calzaghe
94. Ad Wolgast
93. Abe Attell
92. Les Darcy
91. Marcel Cerdan
90. Carmen Basilio
89. Pancho Villa
88. Tiger Flowers
87. Miguel Canto
86. Oscar De La Hoya
85. Beau Jack
84. Myung-Woo Yuh
83. Panama Al Brown
82. Joe Brown
81. Freddie Welsh
80. Erik Morales
79. Marco Antonio Barrera
78. Juan Manuel Marquez
77. Bernard hopkins
76. Harry Wills
75. Harold Johnson
74. Pascual Perez
73. Bob FitzSimmons
72. Carlos Ortiz
71. Mike Tyson
70. Jack "Kid" Berg
69. Georges Carpentier
68. Nicolino Locche
67. Eusebio Pedroza
66. Antonio Cervantes
65. Tommy Loughran
64. Charley Burley
63. Nino Benvenuti
62. Dick Tiger
61. Bob Foster
60. Billy Conn
59. Manuel Ortiz
58. Jack Britton
57. Khaosai Galaxy
56. Jake LaMotta
55. Carlos Zarate
54. Ruben Olivares
53. Ted "Kid" Lewis
52. Ike Williams
51. Wilfredo Gomez
50. Aaron Pryor
49. Azumah Nelson
48. Ricardo Lopez
47.Wilfred benitez
46. Salvador Sanchez
45. Kid Chocolate
44. Benny Lynch
43. George Dixon
42. Manny Pacquiao
41. Floyd Mayweather
40. Jimmy McLarnin
39. Barney Ross
38. Michael Spinks
37. Kid Gavilan
36. Roy Jones Jr.
35. Lennox Lewis
34. Joe Frazier
33. George foreman
32. Jose Napoles
31. Alexis Arguello
30. Thomas Hearns
29. Mickey Walker
28. Eder Jofre
27. Evander Holyfield
26. Ezzard Charles
25. Larry Holmes
24. Pernell Whitaker
23. Julio Cesar Chavez
22. Joe Gans
21. Rocky Maeciano
20. Jack Dempsey
19. Gene Tunney
18. Sandy Saddler
17. Tomy Canzoneri
16. Stanley Ketchel
15. Sam Langford
14. Marvin Hagler
13. Carlos Monzon
12. Jack Johnson
11. Benny Leonard
10. Archie Moore
9. Willie Pep
8. Jimmy Wilde
7. Harry Greb
6. Roberto Duran
5. Sugar Ray Leonard
4. Joe louis
3. Henry Armstrong
2. Muhammad Ali
1. Sugar Ray Robinson

Red - Should be ranked less great.
Blue - Should be ranked greater.
Green - Top 10 P4P.

Only tried to pick out what I feel are the most glaring errors. Obviously there is a lot more I disagree with.

[IronDanHamza]

Red - Should be ranked less great.
Blue - Should be ranked greater.
Green - Top 10 P4P.

Only tried to pick out what I feel are the most glaring errors. Obviously there is a lot more I disagree with.

I'm happy Johnson was included. Rarely do you see him included in these lists.

Think he's probably higher than #75 though.

[Barn]

I'm happy Johnson was included. Rarely do you see him included in these lists.

Think he's probably higher than #75 though.

Few names there he's definitely higher than for sure.

Wins against Moore and Charles > Anything on Ketchel and Dempsey's resume and look where they are sitting.

[IronDanHamza]

Few names there he's definitely higher than for sure.

Wins against Moore and Charles > Anything on Ketchel and Dempsey's resume and look where they are sitting.

And people forget that's just the top of the pile. Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore.

His resume is deeper than a lot think. He beat a lot of the Top ranked fighters between 175 and Heavyweight, well into double figures.

Guys like Jimmy Bivins and Bert Lytell are HOF calibur opponents IMO. Also Pastrano is a HOF'er but he's probably the least deserving HOF'er ever. Or atleast one of them.

People forget that he has wins over two of Sonny Liston's best wins - Valdez and Machen.

His resume is very deep.

[Barn]

And people forget that's just the top of the pile. Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore.

His resume is deeper than a lot think. He beat a lot of the Top ranked fighters between 175 and Heavyweight, well into double figures.

Guys like Jimmy Bivins and Bert Lytell are HOF calibur opponents IMO. Also Pastrano is a HOF'er but he's probably the least deserving HOF'er ever. Or atleast one of them.

People forget that he has wins over two of Sonny Liston's best wins - Valdez and Machen.

His resume is very deep.

He lost to Pastrano though.

[IronDanHamza]

He lost to Pastrano though.

Not even funny.

[Hands of Iron]

I'm displeased with a lot of this list, particularly Ross at No. 39 and 22 spots below Canzoneri? I don't think so. All three (Canzi, McLarnin, Ross) are Top 20 imo. Ross is 4-1 against the other two, with additional wins over Petrolle and Battalino. His record isn't as deep as some other candidates, but considering his top wins and the fact that he rarely lost so much as a fight...

[IronDanHamza]

I'm displeased with a lot of this list, particularly Ross at No. 39 and 22 spots below Canzoneri? I don't think so. All three (Canzi, McLarnin, Ross) are Top 20 imo. Ross is 4-1 against the other two, with additional wins over Petrolle and Battalino. His record isn't as deep as some other candidates, but considering his top wins and the fact that he rarely lost so much as a fight...

I'm guessing they're basing their list more to do with skills as opposed to resume.

That's the only way I can see how they have Canzoneri so far ahead of Ross and Mclarnin.

Both Ross and Mclarnin are criminally low.

[Hands of Iron]

Although not in the direct positions of, I'd quickly swap Johnson, Ketchel, Saddler, Tunney, Dempsey, Marciano and Holmes out of the top 25 in favor of Charles, Walker, Ross, McLarnin, Fitzsimmons, Burley and Gavilan.