As boxing fans are we too forgiving?

[Someone88]

when you say you don't 'forgive' these wifebeaters what do you mean? do you stop being fans once you find out they were domestic abusers? that's quite a few extremely elite boxers that you can't enjoy.

some of the historically biggest fights of all time starred wifebeaters
Ali-Frazier, both of them
Louis-Schmeling
Leonard-Hearns
Gatti-Ward
Hagler-Hearns

I've read Ali's Book and didn't see anything about him hitting his Wife, I don't know but I don't think it was like the other cases

[Someone88]

It may be overstated, but we'd be lying to you if we said it wasn't more acceptable back then compared to now.

I could also put together a collection of evidence for how hitting spouses wasn't considered as bad in the past vs the present.

Sean Connery was interviewed in the November 1965 issue of Playboy and explained that it's okay to hit women if they anger you. That's more recent than any of the examples in the link you gave.

It does seem that way

[SelectOne]

I think we just want to see the best fights but these days the 2-3 year delays in having the big fights are taking there toll on the fans soon as so called big fish are gone manny and floyd say in 3 years time we will be ridd of this manny floyd head ****ing against a wall debate and i for one can not wait for the day either retires

[GrandpaBernard]

I've read Ali's Book and didn't see anything about him hitting his Wife, I don't know but I don't think it was like the other cases

Yep, Ali's story is pretty much swept under the rug due to how glorified he is in the modern era. Many people can't handle the fact their idol was one of those guys too

About Ali punching his wife:

From Sugar Ray Robinson book, Pound for Pound - Muhammad Ali took his wife into the bathroom and beat her.

The reason? His wife's skirt is short.

From Ali's biography The Greatest - When Robinson tried to intervene, Ali shouted "Ray, you ain't nothin' but a middleweight!"

Even boxing's greatest hero who is seen as a symbol of courage and other various virtues was a participant

[Someone88]

Yep, Ali's story is pretty much swept under the rug due to how glorified he is in the modern era. Many people can't handle the fact their idol was one of those guys too

About Ali punching his wife:

From Sugar Ray Robinson book, Pound for Pound - Muhammad Ali took his wife into the bathroom and beat her.

The reason? His wife's skirt is short.

From Ali's biography The Greatest - When Robinson tried to intervene, Ali shouted "Ray, you ain't nothin' but a middleweight!"

Even boxing's greatest hero who is seen as a symbol of courage and other various virtues was a participant

Oh ok that is bad if it happened but didn't Robinson hit women? That's what others said also I think Ali was nice outside the ring usually from what I've heard about others meeting him, it depends on how people judge others

[Barn]

when you say you don't 'forgive' these wifebeaters what do you mean? do you stop being fans once you find out they were domestic abusers? that's quite a few extremely elite boxers that you can't enjoy.

some of the historically biggest fights of all time starred wifebeaters
Ali-Frazier, both of them
Louis-Schmeling
Leonard-Hearns
Gatti-Ward
Hagler-Hearns

I still question the Hagler one, he was found guily and got community service?

Community service for being a prizefighter and assualting a women?

[GrandpaBernard]

Oh ok that is bad if it happened but didn't Robinson hit women? That's what others said also I think Ali was nice outside the ring usually from what I've heard about others meeting him, it depends on how people judge others

yes, Robinson did too

almost half of this thread is about how crazy the beatings he gave out to his wife were

[The_Demon]

As the old saying goes-Quick to know,but slow to judge

I dont worry about what fighters do outside the ring,and im certainly not one to judge,and i doubt the majority of posters on this forum are either

[C.Y.]

I understand where you're coming from T-Bear. But I will never forgive Tyson for biting Evanders ear, that was the most disgracefull thing that I have ever seen in the sporting world.

I've seen worse, and I won't forgive Evan Fields aka Holyfield for intentionally headbutting Tyson in both fights.. Also wasn't a fan of his heabutts and low blows prior to being bitten. He initiated the rough tactics and got what he deserved

[Someone88]

yes, Robinson did too

almost half of this thread is about how crazy the beatings he gave out to his wife were

Yeh that's terrible the other situations with other Fighters I'm not sure of there are other things to consider

As the old saying goes-Quick to know,but slow to judge

I dont worry about what fighters do outside the ring,and im certainly not one to judge,and i doubt the majority of posters on this forum are either

Good points made