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  • #11
    Originally posted by lightsout_finit View Post
    Yes Cotto faded after 5 one sided rounds. That is pathetic.
    I remember the nuthuggers on here making excuses like he felt sorry for gomez LOL!!!

    I don't get what you mean by exaggerated. Cotto won legit but
    he was spent and looked to run away for most of the second half of the mosley fight.

    I mean this is just filled with inaccuracies. None of what you're saying is true, literally not one word.

    That said, this fight would be predictable. Cotto would get out to a lead and he'd either hang on or get stopped late. I could see either happening, but prime Cotto was pretty resilient.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by lightsout_finit View Post
      Yes Cotto faded after 5 one sided rounds. That is pathetic.
      I remember the nuthuggers on here making excuses like he felt sorry for gomez LOL!!!

      I don't get what you mean by exaggerated. Cotto won legit but
      he was spent and looked to run away for most of the second half of the mosley fight.

      Cotto did NOT Fade vs Gomez. That just didnt happen at all....


      As for Mosley, he changed tactics and a somewhat tiring Cotto adapted, he was tired yes but he kept letting go with hard shots and kept winning rounds, just because i guy starts mixing it up and goes on the backfoot doesn't mean he faded.

      The Gomez comment though was totally inaccurate

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      • #13
        If Palomino can get to him late he could win via stoppage. But he'd probably lose a lot of the early rounds so if he didn't get the stoppage it would probably be in Cottos favor. Palomino would be better served in a 15 round fight.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
          I mean this is just filled with inaccuracies. None of what you're saying is true, literally not one word.

          That said, this fight would be predictable. Cotto would get out to a lead and he'd either hang on or get stopped late. I could see either happening, but prime Cotto was pretty resilient.
          Cotto has never been what i'd call resilient....
          get floored by low level fighters and quits when things get tough....
          that ain't resilient.....
          talk bout bias no wonder in ur eyes he weren't tired in that exhibition

          Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
          Cotto did NOT Fade vs Gomez. That just didnt happen at all....


          As for Mosley, he changed tactics and a somewhat tiring Cotto adapted, he was tired yes but he kept letting go with hard shots and kept winning rounds, just because i guy starts mixing it up and goes on the backfoot doesn't mean he faded.

          The Gomez comment though was totally inaccurate

          Cotto was literally murderin gomez as soon as the fight started.

          And Gomez was so bad when he swung for Cotto he would miss wildly
          when cottos head wasn't even moving????

          By the third it should have been over but as usual cotto was blowin and looked weakened.......


          Watch the fight again it is mind blowing that it went as long as it did
          considering how it started.
          Last edited by lightsout_finit; 02-28-2012, 05:58 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
            The Gomez comment though was totally inaccurate
            It was ridiculous. To criticize Cotto for such a lopsided beatdown shows a clear bias against him. Its not like anyone else has ever stopped Gomez sooner.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
              Cotto did NOT Fade vs Gomez. That just didnt happen at all....


              As for Mosley, he changed tactics and a somewhat tiring Cotto adapted, he was tired yes but he kept letting go with hard shots and kept winning rounds, just because i guy starts mixing it up and goes on the backfoot doesn't mean he faded.

              The Gomez comment though was totally inaccurate

              Cotto was fading in the Mosley fight. The first 6 rounds or so, Cotto just had the best jab I've seen in a long time just controlling Mosley and he was sharp and accurate.
              Then he forgot it, Mosley winged a few right hands and he was on his back feet.

              Mosley closed the gap, I just thought that was the best Cotto jab I've ever seen that night and he just put it on the shelf late.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by jreckoning View Post
                Cotto was fading in the Mosley fight. The first 6 rounds or so, Cotto just had the best jab I've seen in a long time just controlling Mosley and he was sharp and accurate.
                Then he forgot it, Mosley winged a few right hands and he was on his back feet.

                Mosley closed the gap, I just thought that was the best Cotto jab I've ever seen that night and he just put it on the shelf late.
                Nah, I'm not sure why this has become the general perception. It was through the first 8 rounds that Cotto was controlling everything. In the 9th the cut inside the lip from the Judah fight opened up and he started backing up. He also said in the post fight that he realized he wasn't going to knock Mosley out and felt he was well ahead on the cards so he boxed safely.

                Even then, he had a great second half of the tenth where he was pressing the action, won the 11th pretty clearly, and did just as little as Shane in the 12th cause he thought he had the fight in the bag.

                I implore anyone to watch the fight again.....not trying to like blindly defend Cotto but that's legit exactly what happened(that's my favorite fight seen it far too many times).

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  It was ridiculous. To criticize Cotto for such a lopsided beatdown shows a clear bias against him. Its not like anyone else has ever stopped Gomez sooner.

                  I'll admit I'm no Cotto fan.........
                  And I am criticizeing his endurance, but I never said he didn't beat the hell out of Gomez!


                  I honestly believe despite Cotto being economical with his punches and evrything going his way he looked way more tired than he should be by the end of that fight.......

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                  • #19
                    Cotto looks small to me and I'll guess he fought the majority of his bouts as a lightwelter? I don't think hes more than 5'7" so that makes him very short in that division. Great fighters can move up in weight and do well because of their higher skill levels but a decent fighter will become slighter in structure and thats what I see in Cotto against Palomino. Palomino was 5'9" and fought his entire carreer at welter he was stronger than Cotto physically and probably mentally. Cottos style could give Carlos some trouble Carlos didn't react quickly to punches at times and if Cotto could move in and out he could frustrate Carlos. I think that Palomino being the bigger stronger man and their skill levels off set one another would catch up eventually and win. I like Cotto because hes learning late in his carreer how to fight his fight!!! Whats best for him round per round is a difficult lesson for fighters to learn whats in the "book" so to speak doesn't usually make for reality for individuals. You may start out fighting a certain style and a different mind set then what you wind up doing, the maturation proccess can bring changes and if you adopt to them quickly the better of you'll be. Those who can't find themselves if they need to adapt usually get lost in the boxing shuffle which can spell "opponents" much of the time.
                    Palomino wins over Cotto, close even if he stops him. Ray.
                    Last edited by Ray Corso; 02-29-2012, 09:59 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                      Cotto looks small to me and I'll guess he fought the majority of his bouts as a lightwelter? I don't think hes more than 5'7" so that makes him very short in that division. Great fighters can move up in weight and do well because of their higher skill levels but a decent fighter will become slighter in structure and thats what I see in Cotto against Palomino. Palomino was 5'9" and fought his entire carreer at welter he was stronger than Cotto physically and probably mentally. Cottos style could give Carlos some trouble Carlos didn't react quickly to punches at times and if Cotto could move in and out he could frustrate Carlos. I think that Palomino being the bigger stronger man and their skill levels off set one another would catch up eventually and win. I like Cotto because hes learning late in his carreer how to fight his fight!!! Whats best for him round per round is a difficult lesson for fighters to learn whats in the "book" so to speak doesn't usually make for reality for individuals. You may start out fighting a certain style and a different mind set then what you wind up doing, the maturation proccess can bring changes and if you adopt to them quickly the better of you'll be. Those who can't find themselves if they need to adapt usually get lost in the boxing shuffle which can spell "opponents" much of the time.
                      Palomino wins over Cotto, close even if he stops him. Ray.

                      Cotto mostly liked to box as a prospect he got the puncher mentality for a while now he's more a boxer again......
                      Last edited by lightsout_finit; 02-29-2012, 10:06 AM.

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