Tyson vs Douglas judge cards

[CarlosG815]

Douglas got a break in the 8th when he was knocked down with the count. A lot of referees would have called that a KO.

I wouldn't call that a break. He was up before the count of 10 and was totally coherent. Had the ref started his count a couple of seconds earlier, he'd have still gotten up in time because he was aware of the count and had no problem getting up.

Tyson on the other hand was barely standing at the end of the 8th and when he went down in the 10th he was done.

[jaded]

I wouldn't call that a break. He was up before the count of 10 and was totally coherent. Had the ref started his count a couple of seconds earlier, he'd have still gotten up in time because he was aware of the count and had no problem getting up.

Tyson on the other hand was barely standing at the end of the 8th and when he went down in the 10th he was done.

Watch it again....he's up on the count of 10...but note that the ref is a bit late to get to the downed fighter by a second. When the ref is counting 1...I'm seeing it as 2.

I'm not commentating on Tyson being KO'd...but it might have not gotten that far if the count started when Douglas went down is what I am saying.

[crold1]

Watch it again....he's up on the count of 10...but note that the ref is a bit late to get to the downed fighter by a second. When the ref is counting 1...I'm seeing it as 2.

I'm not commentating on Tyson being KO'd...but it might have not gotten that far if the count started when Douglas went down is what I am saying.

Ten counts rarely start the moment a fighter hits deck. It's a count. Not an exact science. Pay close attention; in most fights, the count is a second or two off of where the impact occurred. It was made an issue where there was none. Douglas was chilling, clear headed, waiting for the ref to give him the # he wanted. That was as normal a count as there is.

[StarshipTrooper]

Bottom line is the a KO is when the ref's count reaches ten NOT when ten seconds elapse.

Poet

[Sugarj]

He couldn't have. He was already signed for a June 90 clash with Holy. Take Douglas, and the strippings would have started. Holy was across the board mando and had been awhile.

Ah, I didn't know he was signed already for Holyfield. Just that it was in the pipeline.

[jaded]

Ten counts rarely start the moment a fighter hits deck. It's a count. Not an exact science. Pay close attention; in most fights, the count is a second or two off of where the impact occurred. It was made an issue where there was none. Douglas was chilling, clear headed, waiting for the ref to give him the # he wanted. That was as normal a count as there is.

I agree...what I'm saying is considering how different ref's make different calls...it wouldn't be the 1st time that I would have seen a ref call that type of thing a KO...especially with the favoured cash cow champion is involved. I'm sure you have seen such calls in the past yourself. But I'm not dis*****g the call...but I wouldn't have been overly surprised to seen it called a KO.

[crold1]

Ah, I didn't know he was signed already for Holyfield. Just that it was in the pipeline.

I'd have to check to make sure signed is 100% but the date, site etc. were all in place. A Douglas return would have had to come after Holy or the whole thing would have gone to court and strippings.

And then the rematch wouldn't have mattered after Holy won.

[crold1]

I agree...what I'm saying is considering how different ref's make different calls...it wouldn't be the 1st time that I would have seen a ref call that type of thing a KO...especially with the favoured cash cow champion is involved. I'm sure you have seen such calls in the past yourself. But I'm not dis*****g the call...but I wouldn't have been overly surprised to seen it called a KO.

I see what you mean. They could have called a cheap stop. The referee being competent and not completely corrupt was a bonus then.

[IronDanHamza]

Had the ref let Tyson carry on, his was once punch from going straight back down anyway.

The right man won, that night.

As much as I hate to say it. Still, to this very day, all these years later, I still can't believe Douglas beat Mike Tyson.

Without any question the most shocked I've ever been, ever.

[Barn]

Had the ref let Tyson carry on, his was once punch from going straight back down anyway.

The right man won, that night.

As much as I hate to say it. Still, to this very day, all these years later, I still can't believe Douglas beat Mike Tyson.

Without any question the most shocked I've ever been, ever.

Would have been weird watching it, can only imagine.