Tyson murders sparring partner-1991

[Barn]

We finally agree on something.

[Hands of Iron]

There's actually footage of young lennox beating the **** out of young mike but it vanished. Everyone even Tyson's trainers admitted that the very first time they two met at like age 16-17 Tyson beat Lennox because lennox didn't know Tyson took sparring so seriously. Within hours Lennox was routinely laying a beat down on Mike Tyson with his jabs and clinching. That is yet another reason Mike Ducked Lennox during the 90's. I don't buy all that Don King **** about him being the one to pay Lennox 4 million not to fight Tyson. If Mike really wanted to fight Lennox he would have. Mike was scared plain and simple. Lennox was always the superior boxer, the superior puncher, the superior warrior, the superior champion and the superior human being.

Yeah, Lennox is bulletproof.

How many other ATG Heavyweights can claim to of been KO'ed by one punch as defending champion before the mid-rounds. Twice, no less.

[bergin]

Lennox avenged both those losses, something no other 'ATG ' ever did to all their losses. The problem and ONLY problem with Lennox is that he was too good. Lennox had God Given skills surpassing every other boxer in the history of boxing and that made him relaxed against guys like Mccall and Rahman. Both Oliver and Rahman had massive inspiriation from their personal lives during those fights as well. It didn't matter because Lennox made Mccall cry in the rematch and koed Rahman so hard he started bleeding lol.

[Mike Tyson77]

Yeah, Lennox is bulletproof.

How many other ATG Heavyweights can claim to of been KO'ed by one punch as defending champion before the mid-rounds. Twice, no less.

[Hands of Iron]

McCall was in no condition mentally to be in a boxing ring. Lewis had some of the heaviest hands in HW history and McCall took them like love taps. He doesnt ever "TKO McCall" even when Oliver is basically begging him to. No Contest, DQ win at best. Ray Mercer 1996, Draw at best. I doubt Rahman was any more inspired in the second fight than Lewis was the first go-round. He was a fringer who stretched Lewis with a single blow, picking up a check.

You started with the sensationalism.

[Hands of Iron]

Wasn't it also Lewis who claimed to age like fine fine and shortly before the Vitali fight that he was at the peak of his powers and would continue for several more years? He won that fight, fair and square. He also initially promised a rematch and upon seeing Kirk Johnson (the fighter he was originally scheduled to defend against) disposed of in two rounds, thought better of it and packed his bags. He left the boxing world with arguably the biggest dissapointment of the decade.

See, people claim that Tyson is given every excuse in the book when the same could be said for every other nuthugging faction. I'll tell you firsthand that Tyson was smack dab in his physical prime when Douglas turned him into a human punching bag. I love that fight for the simple fact Tyson got the opportunity to prove a worthy chin. Prior to that, he'd been so ruthlessly effective at slipping punches and countering, unloading supercharged combos from his midrange sweet spot. Before the Douglas fight, Tyson had the audacity to claim he was a better fighter than he'd been under his original team. He ate those words. His prime consists of the time period of 1986 to 1991 in which he lost one fight, and had about as many bouts prior to prison as Lewis did his entire career. Perfectly acceptable IMO if one is to consider the shelf life of a short, swarming heavyweight, and particularly when people will tell you Joe Frazier was already past his best before the bell rang for his 30th professional fight or Lewis, who was humiliated in the same way twice during two different title reigns, neither of which encompass his prime.

[Mike Tyson77]

Wasn't it also Lewis who claimed to age like fine fine and shortly before the Vitali fight that he was at the peak of his powers and would continue for several more years? He won that fight, fair and square. He also initially promised a rematch and upon seeing Kirk Johnson (the fighter he was originally scheduled to defend against) disposed of in two rounds, thought better of it and packed his bags. He left the boxing world with arguably the biggest dissapointment of the decade.

See, people claim that Tyson is given every excuse in the book when the same could be said for every other nuthugging faction. I'll tell you firsthand that Tyson was smack dab in his physical prime when Douglas turned him into a human punching bag. I love that fight for the simple fact Tyson got the opportunity to prove a worthy chin. Prior to that, he'd been so ruthlessly effective at slipping punches and countering, unloading supercharged combos from his midrange sweet spot. Before the Douglas fight, Tyson had the audacity to claim he was a better fighter than he'd been under his original team. He ate those words. His prime consists of the time period of 1986 to 1991 in which he lost one fight, and had about as many bouts prior to prison as Lewis did his entire career. Perfectly acceptable IMO if one is to consider the shelf life of a short, swarming heavyweight, and particularly when people will tell you Joe Frazier was already past his best before the bell rang for his 30th professional fight or Lewis, who was humiliated in the same way twice during two different title reigns, neither of which encompass his prime.

Very good post.

[JAB5239]

Yeah, Lennox is bulletproof.

How many other ATG Heavyweights can claim to of been KO'ed by one punch as defending champion before the mid-rounds. Twice, no less.

Not bulletproof, but how many ATG's can say they've beaten every man they've ever faced and have the caliber of resume Lewis has?

[Hands of Iron]

Not bulletproof, but how many ATG's can say they've beaten every man they've ever faced and have the caliber of resume Lewis has?

Great accomplishment.

Although a feat such as that includes a variety of different circumstances. Some fights arent easily made, other fighters are already past it for them to realistically avenge a loss. No doubt, much credit has to go to Lewis himself: He had the size, style, physical attributes and skill to remain at the top level longer than most are capable (in terms of real time). The point was that amongst other ATGs, chin wasnt his strong suit. Please, understand the post I was quoting when I levied that response.

I dont fault Lennox for making the decision he did. A rematch with Vitali was something very desired by most fans at the time, but far from a mandatory entitlement. It isnt anybody elses hide or health on the line. I actually felt that if he'd of dropped a few pounds he couldve scored a clean KO without any remnants of scorecards and ringside doctors to carry this "debate" on for almost a decade already.

[La_Vibora]

He knocked out Wesley Snipes!