Joseph Louis Barrow

[Da Iceman]

I also believe that Joe Louis could defeat a prime Muhammad Ali, but I don't see him winning by ko. A late tko at best.

Muhammad Ali had no chin? I beg to differ. I consider him to have one of the most solid chins in heavyweight history.

a prime ali had no chin, he got the **** knocked out of him by cooper. im just sayin if joe caught him on the ropes in the later rounds he would get ko'ed

[M26]

a prime ali had no chin, he got the **** knocked out of him by cooper. im just sayin if joe caught him on the ropes in the later rounds he would get ko'ed

I don't consider the 1963 version of Cassius Clay as the prime Muhammad Ali. He fought at his best in the years 1966-1967.

But you have a point in that Joe Louis could possibly stop Ali late if he managed to get to him. Nobody finished a hurting foe better than did Louis, and Ali could get hurt. Just check out round 11 versus Joe Frazier in 1971. If this was against Louis, I am not sure Ali would have survived that round.

[Da Iceman]

ali would've been toast

[leff]

now your just being silly, ali had a great chin

[Skydog]

The Ali that fought Cooper and Banks was not Ali in his prime. Hell, he wasn't in his prime when he fought Liston. Ali started his prime when he fought Chuvalo. You can tell because he looks much bigger, and that first 1-2 he throws in the fight has more of a snap than anything he threw before that.

[Da Iceman]

The Ali that fought Cooper and Banks was not Ali in his prime. Hell, he wasn't in his prime when he fought Liston. Ali started his prime when he fought Chuvalo. You can tell because he looks much bigger, and that first 1-2 he throws in the fight has more of a snap than anything he threw before that.

you guys must not know what a prime is. your prime is when you body heals faster from damage, and thats 18-28 years old. just because he was more fit in 1966-1967 doesnt mean that that was his true prime. his prime was 1961-1968, and at that time he didnt have a chin. but when he came back to fight frazier he did have one

[butterfly1964]

Ali beat the big 3... FRAZIER, FOREMAN, LISTON... Joe Louis didn't do anything that equates to that.. Ali got a gift decision against YOUNG AND NORTON... thats it. Ali was fighting after 3 years of inactivity and still managed to make a huge impact, with the loss of his 3 prime years. Its not just the ring record, but the sheer level of ability in the ring... And Joe wouldn't beat Ali... Beautiful technical skills, however he would really struggle because he had old school shuffling footwork, and he dropped his Left hand too low, Ali would pick him off from the periphery with his right cross.... someone with a perfect orthodox style would really struggle with an unorthodox boxer like Ali.... Kidblackie you obviously have something against Ali, i know theres lots of nuthuggers out there that don't see any of his flaws, but i do and yet i still come to the conclusion hes the best... and these GIFT decisions are blown way out of proportion by Ali haters.

applause, applause!
well done.

[butterfly1964]

you guys must not know what a prime is. your prime is when you body heals faster from damage, and thats 18-28 years old. just because he was more fit in 1966-1967 doesnt mean that that was his true prime. his prime was 1961-1968, and at that time he didnt have a chin. but when he came back to fight frazier he did have one

no, a prime is the absolute peak of an athletes physical ability, when he is the strongest, fastes and most durable, and anything else you can think of all at the same time. 1967 ali could take a punch (just that nobody knew it much), was strong, big, and had great stamina and condition. that was ali at his best.

[Da Iceman]

no its when your body heals faster and takes punishment better and thats 18-28 or 29

[butterfly1964]

no its when your body heals faster and takes punishment better and thats 18-28 or 29

primes differ depending on the sport you play, it's not the same for everything.