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  • IronDanHamza
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    Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
    From the nineties (even eighties) onwards you have to factor in the effect of steroids at the highest levels of the game. That's what most people mean when they talk about "nutritional advances".
    They actually don't.

    When most people say "Nutritional advances" that's exactly what they mean.

    They're referring to upgrades in Nutrition. Meaning foods.

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  • nomadman
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    Originally posted by billvp
    well under that question then, I'd think any of them that are still breathing can beat Ali
    Obviously some degree of fairness has to enter into the equation. Prime vs prime, shall we say? Or condition during biggest win vs condition vs biggest win. Not prime vs slightly past-prime-and-out-of-shape-last-fight-before-retirement.

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  • Canelo Phresh
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    i will say that i feel vitali has a better chance of beating ali than lennox does. vitali always has applied pressure on his opponents used by imposing his jab, size, and range. i feel lennox would be doing his poor mans ali against ali would be ineffective. where as vitalis measured, and increasingly applied pressure would have a better chance at beating ali. i feel ali would beat both confidently im just stating who i think would have the better chance at the upset. vitali v lennox i go with lennox.

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  • Boxing Bob
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    there's two answers to the question- NO and HELL NO!

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  • Canelo Phresh
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    naw not even lewis.

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  • nomadman
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    Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
    Boxers

    Fighters eat and train the same way they did a half-century ago.
    From the nineties (even eighties) onwards you have to factor in the effect of steroids at the highest levels of the game. That's what most people mean when they talk about "nutritional advances".

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  • nomadman
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    Why is everyone comparing a prime Ali to a past prime Lennox? That's hardly fair is it?

    Question stated if anyone on either Klits' resume beats Ali, but not necessarily in the condition they fought one of the brothers in. Also didn't state anything about what condition Ali is in.

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  • res
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    Originally posted by Forza View Post
    On paper Lewis has an advantage over Ali in every single aspect except speed.

    Honestly I could see lewis TKO'ing Ali with ease. 2 different eras, 2 different athletes.
    The only advantage I see here is power. and Ali was usually trumped in that area.

    Reach? it won't do Lewis any good from a practical standpoint, Ali out jabs him.

    Also, I think Foreman and Holmes' post-prime activity in the 90's permanently put to sleep the evolution myth.
    Last edited by res; 01-20-2012, 02:05 PM.

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  • DeepSleep
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    I'd give prime Lennox a shot to beat 70's Ali but I'd still favor Ali to win. 60's Ali would have little problem with prime Lennox at all in my book.

    Call me crazy but I think Chris Byrd could give 70's Ali some serious issues but I don't think he could win.

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  • young_robbed
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    Originally posted by Joeyzagz View Post
    Yeah... its kinda annoying that Lennox beat Klitschko, Bowe, Tyson and Evander. Why did he have to beat his 4 best contemporaies ? WTF is his problem?
    Your sarcasm doesn't make any sense here. Lewis beat an amateur Bowe. So that's irrelevant. I decide to give immense credit for him beating Klitschko of course. Tyson was shot obviously. and Holyfield was past it. As past it as Louis was against Marciano

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