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  • #61
    Originally posted by Skydog
    Tyson physically dominated his era better than anyone. No one even came close. With Louis, he had some questionable decisions and was knocked down a few times. Ali was nearly knocked out by Cooper, though he never lost. Tyson may have lost to Douglas, but apart from that, he wasn't touched in his prime.
    heres the problem, he was a champ for 2 years!!!
    how can you consider him the most dominant!!
    muhammad never lost in his prime, and tyson did
    louis reign was the most dominant because he had so many title defenses and was champ for so long

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    • #62
      a case could be made for rocky too

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      • #63
        Originally posted by KidBlackie
        [[[[[[[[[[IMO Jim Jeffries was an ever more dominant HWs, again because of his competition: he didnt even fight black fighters...]]]]]]]]]]]]]
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        My use of the quote button is more than adequate to point out the obvious deficiencies of you. Jeffries fought several top black contenders as anyone who knows anything about boxing knows. That obviously ain't you. The rest of your post is equally poorly thought out and constructed and hardly worth correcting since the corrections would be far beyond your comprehension.
        1. you still have to answer on galento. Is the answer beyond my comprehension or you have no answer except "I BSed tony galento beat mostly nobodies"?

        2. Name the several top black contenders Jeffries fought FOR HIS TITLE, please. Since we are talking about dominant CHAMPIONS, I don't consider non-title fights very interesting.

        3. Thanks for the remarks on my post being poorly constructed and so on... I will keep your fulgid examples of prose as benchmark when I finish grading papers tonight.

        4. (out of curiosity) What do you have against the quote feature? Are you using some non-standard browser?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by KidBlackie
          [[[[he didn't fight blacks when he had the title.]]]]
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          Tell you what I'm gonna do kid. I ain't gonna lay into you. I'm giving you some free shots here. I won't counter, but the danger is I might well laugh at you.

          Praytell us what black fighters Jeffries should've have fought and when he should've fought em. This is a moment of truth for ya kid. Man or mouse, which is ya?
          I wonder why the other guy is not answering yet but I will give you a hint

          So there was this "colored heavyweight champion of the world", who was 25-26 in 1903-1904.

          Guess what's his name...

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          • #65
            Originally posted by PBF34
            wow, you really are a clown
            the cooper fight was the fight right before the first liston fight, when ali was clearly at his best.
            still no response for the all knowledgable butterfly

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            • #66
              Originally posted by PBF34
              wow, you really are a clown
              the cooper fight was the fight right before the first liston fight, when ali was clearly at his best.
              no, you really are the clown. ali prime was 1966-67. you could see that in the build of his body and the increased accuracy of his punches.

              he fought cooper in 1963 and banks in 1962, when he was 21 and 20, still getting better, and gaining weight, it was easier to floor clay at that time cause he did'nt know how to take a punch, and he was lighter.
              Last edited by butterfly1964; 11-18-2005, 12:28 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by PBF34
                still no response for the all knowledgable butterfly
                i'm right here, ready and waiting.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by butterfly1964
                  no, you really are the clown. ali prime was 1966-67. you could see that in the build of his body and the increased accuracy of his punches.

                  he fought cooper in 1963 and banks in 1962, when he was 21 and 20, still getting better, and gaining weight, it was easier to floor clay at that time cause he did'nt know how to take a punch, and he was lighter.
                  if ali's prime lasted on year, than how could he be the most dominant?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by PBF34
                    if ali's prime lasted on year, than how could he be the most dominant?
                    it would have lasted for at least 4 years, but ali was stripped of his title in 1967. it probably would have lasted till 1970 or 71!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by butterfly1964
                      it would have lasted for at least 4 years, but ali was stripped of his title in 1967. it probably would have lasted till 1970 or 71!
                      i unedrstand that, but it only lasted on year...so how can he be the most dominant?

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