you dont know **** about ali
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Originally posted by NextRockyif your so knowledgable how come ali did fight henry cooper in his prime?
1963-06-18
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Originally posted by KidBlackie
First off, Galento was a tough and very dangerous fighter, fighting and beating most of the best of his era. Calling him Butterbean type 4rd exhibition style fighter indicates a complete lack of history.
2nd, Joe only had a few controversial fights, and gave his opponents immediate rematches and completely destroyed them in textbook displays of boxing and slugging.
Moreover, Joe also had 3 yrs of inactivity before resuming his career. Joe was only beat by 3 fighters in his career, all HOFers, two of the losses when he was an old man fighting long past his best in his IRS comeback. Who cares if he was knocked down. He was a finisher and didn't need Don King or torn gloves for his advantage.
On Galento
"fighting and BEATING MOST of the BEST of his era" you ll have to back this up with names, especially for the beating part
It's true he had more stamina than butterbean, that being said in an era of well conditioned 15 round fighters, He was what butterbean is in an era of slow, fat HWs.
It is for Joe Louis fighting guys like Tony Galento that the expression "bum of the month" was born. IF you don't know that, it's "a complete lack of history"
As far as the rest goes
Torn gloves? Don King? what are you talking about exactly?
Who cares if he was knocked down? Well I guess I do
To sum it up
Joe Louis was a way more dominant champion than Ali, and this is mostly due to his competition. He wouldn't have looked so good when fighting sonny liston, joe frazier, george foreman.
IMO Jim Jeffries was an ever more dominant HWs, again because of his competition: he didnt even fight black fighters...
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[[[[[[[[[[IMO Jim Jeffries was an ever more dominant HWs, again because of his competition: he didnt even fight black fighters...]]]]]]]]]]]]]
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My use of the quote button is more than adequate to point out the obvious deficiencies of you. Jeffries fought several top black contenders as anyone who knows anything about boxing knows. That obviously ain't you. The rest of your post is equally poorly thought out and constructed and hardly worth correcting since the corrections would be far beyond your comprehension.
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Originally posted by KidBlackie[[[[[[[[[[IMO Jim Jeffries was an ever more dominant HWs, again because of his competition: he didnt even fight black fighters...]]]]]]]]]]]]]
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My use of the quote button is more than adequate to point out the obvious deficiencies of you. Jeffries fought several top black contenders as anyone who knows anything about boxing knows. That obviously ain't you. The rest of your post is equally poorly thought out and constructed and hardly worth correcting since the corrections would be far beyond your comprehension.
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Originally posted by butterfly1964he didn't fight henry cooper and sonny banks in his prime, any fool would know that.
the cooper fight was the fight right before the first liston fight, when ali was clearly at his best.
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[[[[he didn't fight blacks when he had the title.]]]]
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Tell you what I'm gonna do kid. I ain't gonna lay into you. I'm giving you some free shots here. I won't counter, but the danger is I might well laugh at you.
Praytell us what black fighters Jeffries should've have fought and when he should've fought em. This is a moment of truth for ya kid. Man or mouse, which is ya?
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Tyson physically dominated his era better than anyone. No one even came close. With Louis, he had some questionable decisions and was knocked down a few times. Ali was nearly knocked out by Cooper, though he never lost. Tyson may have lost to Douglas, but apart from that, he wasn't touched in his prime.
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