I think that list was done in the mid to late 90's. Not long after he upset Tyson and was considered just a notch below the Almighty God himself by the general public.
The problem with lists like these is do you base them on legend/record?
Or do you base them on likely superiority in head to head matches?
Its the reason why I don't do them!
Based on his form between 1991 and 1995 Rid**** Bowe deserves to be in any head to head list for example. The guy who turned up for all three Holyfield fights would beat many an ATG.
That Ring list was from the late 90s though, just after Holyfield beat Tyson......or Lennox Lewis would have been included. Ranking Holyfield ahead of Holmes and Foreman was a bit too much. Especially when you see the troubles that Evander had when he met old Foreman and old Holmes (both put up excellent efforts into their 40s and certainly won several rounds each, in their primes Holyfield would probably have lost to these two).
I think that list was done in the mid to late 90's. Not long after he upset Tyson and was considered just a notch below the Almighty God himself by the general public.
If that's the case he may deserve the spot, since he's punched Tyson all the way to 14th place in a list from the '90s
The problem with lists like these is do you base them on legend/record?
Or do you base them on likely superiority in head to head matches?
Its the reason why I don't do them!
Based on his form between 1991 and 1995 Rid**** Bowe deserves to be in any head to head list for example. The guy who turned up for all three Holyfield fights would beat many an ATG.
That Ring list was from the late 90s though, just after Holyfield beat Tyson......or Lennox Lewis would have been included. Ranking Holyfield ahead of Holmes and Foreman was a bit too much. Especially when you see the troubles that Evander had when he met old Foreman and old Holmes (both put up excellent efforts into their 40s and certainly won several rounds each, in their primes Holyfield would probably have lost to these two).
I personally base the majorty of my reasoning on their resume and achievements.
But, I do consider H2H ability also, but it means little to their ranking in my personal opinion.
For example I have Bob Foster #8 on my LHW List despite the fact I feel he could beat most of the fighters ahead of him.
I haven't made any changes to my list since 2 months ago. I was anti Tyson due to nuthuggers in my gym. Although my 10 will remain unchanged despite a different order, Tyson is between 10 and 15 realistically
I haven't made any changes to my list since 2 months ago. I was anti Tyson due to nuthuggers in my gym. Although my 10 will remain unchanged despite a different order, Tyson is between 10 and 15 realistically
Be your own man matey. Don't let nuthuggers influence you whichever way.......
Though I love Holyfield and think he's an unquestionable all-time great....ranking him at heavyweight is a ****in' baffling thing for me. He was just so inconsistent. He had a lot of great wins and a respectable reign as champ, but he lost and/or struggled quite a bit as well.
He was amazing at Crusierweight and what he was able to do as a heavyweight was amazing considering he really wasn't a heavyweight. But, that doesn't mean he should rank amongst the best ever at that weight. The Ring definitely went a little nuts back then with that # 3 rating!
Though I love Holyfield and think he's an unquestionable all-time great....ranking him at heavyweight is a ****in' baffling thing for me. He was just so inconsistent. He had a lot of great wins and a respectable reign as champ, but he lost and/or struggled quite a bit as well.
He was amazing at Crusierweight and what he was able to do as a heavyweight was amazing considering he really wasn't a heavyweight. But, that doesn't mean he should rank amongst the best ever at that weight. The Ring definitely went a little nuts back then with that # 3 rating!
Fighters on their way up are often understandably overrated, but I've never seen a veteran fighter suddenly become so ridiculously overrated like Holyfield did after beating Tyson.
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