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  • Originally posted by Yaman
    Most succesfull boxer in the ring with accomplishments(Wich is probably how everybody judges the top 10).

    1-Joe Louis
    2-Muhammed Ali
    3-Ray Robinson
    4-Rocky Marciano
    5-Mike Tyson
    6-George Foreman
    7-Roy Jones Jr.
    8-Lennox Lewis
    9-Ray Leonard
    10-Marvin Hagler

    Greatest boxers at their prime, fully trained, physically and mentally ready to fight.

    1-Mike Tyson
    2-Joe Louis
    3-Muhammed Ali
    4-Ray Robinson
    5-Larry Holmes
    6-Roy Jones Jr.
    7-George Foreman
    8-Rocky Marciano
    9-Lennox Lewis
    10-Joe Frazier
    i'm not trying to be a nuthugger but i think rocky marciano would be put further up that chart, and here's my reason and pls argue it if you think i'm wrong i ain't gunna get pissed, but rocky marciano never was out of shape until he retired, the only time he ever wasn't in tip top condition between fights was after he put Carmine Vingo in the Coma, when he did that, he trained a total of 2 weeks for that fight becasue the rest of the time he was either in the hospital waiting for updates on vingo's condition or in church praying for vingo. thats why he was so ****ty against lastarza. had he trained for the fight like he usually would have he would have done what he did to him in the rematch.

    beside that no complaints thats a very accurate list
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    Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 06:01 AM.

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    • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
      i'm not trying to be a nuthugger but i think rocky marciano would be put further up that chart, and here's my reason and pls argue it if you think i'm wrong i ain't gunna get pissed, but rocky marciano never was out of shape until he retired, the only time he ever wasn't in tip top condition between fights was after he put Carmine Vingo in the Coma, when he did that, he trained a total of 2 weeks for that fight becasue the rest of the time he was either in the hospital waiting for updates on vingo's condition or in church praying for vingo. thats why he was so ****ty against lastarza. had he trained for the fight like he usually would have he would have done what he did to him in the rematch.

      beside that no complaints thats a very accurate list
      I wouldn't have rocky ANY higher then that, he was undefeated in the weakest era of boxing minus or on par with the current. If his record included ONE loss, which i believe he did... and im sure you know what match im talking about... he wouldn't be in the top 5 of any sportswriters list.

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      • http://coxscorner.tripod.com/rocky.html

        Read that, explains what im getting at very well.

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        • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
          Just remember that Ali underated Cooper's left hook and was destroying Cooper and taunting him. The left hook that floored him came as a surprise, but he got straight up. Ali never got KO'd though.
          Ali never underrated coopers right hook. A young, naieve Clay underrated Coopers right hook.

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          • Not a popular choice but

            My all time favorite was Wilfredo Gomez. Ali was the greatest, of course.

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            • Originally posted by fistlegend
              its hard to say but its between ali and robinson, i preferred alis style because he took sugar rays style and improved it
              :-D

              Average Ali fanboy is usually clueless in boxing.
              Robinson with Ali style could never be same level he was. Only in heavyweight you can get away with Ali's flawed style. Ali had talent close to Robinson's level but he didn't have his skills, his power, his technique. Only thing Ali had better than Robinson was footwork when he was dancing. But Robinson had still better classic footwork.

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              • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
                i'm not trying to be a nuthugger but i think rocky marciano would be put further up that chart, and here's my reason and pls argue it if you think i'm wrong i ain't gunna get pissed, but rocky marciano never was out of shape until he retired, the only time he ever wasn't in tip top condition between fights was after he put Carmine Vingo in the Coma, when he did that, he trained a total of 2 weeks for that fight becasue the rest of the time he was either in the hospital waiting for updates on vingo's condition or in church praying for vingo. thats why he was so ****ty against lastarza. had he trained for the fight like he usually would have he would have done what he did to him in the rematch.

                beside that no complaints thats a very accurate list
                I've thought about it and i think you have a point. Some of the fighters on my list had their flaws and weren't 100% ready to fight in their whole career like Rocky. I think this is the list.


                Greatest boxers at their prime, fully trained, physically and mentally ready to fight.

                1-Mike Tyson
                2-Joe Louis
                3-Ray Robinson
                4-Muhammed Ali
                5-Rocky Marciano
                6-Roy Jones Jr.
                7-George Foreman
                8-Larry Holmes
                9-Lennox Lewis
                10-Joe Frazier

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                • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
                  i'm not trying to be a nuthugger but i think rocky marciano would be put further up that chart, and here's my reason and pls argue it if you think i'm wrong i ain't gunna get pissed, but rocky marciano never was out of shape until he retired, the only time he ever wasn't in tip top condition between fights was after he put Carmine Vingo in the Coma, when he did that, he trained a total of 2 weeks for that fight becasue the rest of the time he was either in the hospital waiting for updates on vingo's condition or in church praying for vingo. thats why he was so ****ty against lastarza. had he trained for the fight like he usually would have he would have done what he did to him in the rematch.

                  beside that no complaints thats a very accurate list
                  gotta agree with you

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                  • Originally posted by KidBlackie View Post
                    I've never seen a bigger collection of newbies on a board before.

                    Usually when the greatest fighters are debated, the only names that come up for the number one slot are Robinson, Pep, or Greb. Certainly Langford is often included in the top 10. Sometimes Rocky, Louis, Dempsey or Ali is mentioned, but since most of the hardest competition has traditionally been in the lower weights, heavies are usually excluded from the debate. Langford is in based not only on his longevity, his incredible comp, but the fact that he fought in all divisions from lightweight to heavy.

                    You boys ain't heard of any greats. Your history starts with your first bottle and you just flat ain't got the smarts to figure out the larger world which exists outside the sphere of your diapers!
                    - -Ouch!

                    Does seem a bit preschoolish compared to ye olde AOL forum.

                    Now Manny in the mix!

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                    • In considering Ali, perhaps it should be from Liston I to the ban after Zora Folley. Before Liston Ali had some unimpressive fights, Cooper, Jones; but not during those years.

                      Hardly lost a round in those years.

                      Was getting greater pop on his punches and could still dance the whole fight. And we all lost his best years, approx ages 25-28.

                      Would have been his greatest years. Likely would have won relatively easy decision against Frazier by dancing and jabbing.

                      Ali

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