Do stocky fighters generaly have better chins???

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  • RubenSonny
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    #21
    Originally posted by ghns1133
    why not?

    seemed pretty short and thick to mee
    Sure he was broad-shouldered but he was pretty lean, very defined long arms and a slim waist (in comparison to his shoulders).

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    • gatorDelux
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      #22
      Originally posted by RubenSonny
      Sure he was broad-shouldered but he was pretty lean, very defined long arms and a slim waist (in comparison to his shoulders).
      thats true

      he had a weird build

      but he ha thick back leg an neck muscles and was kinda short

      u can be stocky and still have low body fat

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      • nomadman
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        #23
        I've noticed that good chins generally seem to fall into two categories, stocky no neck guys with big square heads, and spindly limber guys with elastic necks. The former take the punches and just absorb them into the muscles around their neck and shoulders. The latter dissipate the energy of the punch by being so relaxed that the brain's impact is softened. Andrade, McCullough, Margarito and Naz would be good examples of this latter. Naz especially, often looked like his neck was being broken in some of the pics caught at the moment of impact. I've also noticed that a lot of fighters with big heads relative to their body size tend to be able to take a good punch. Whether there's a physical reason for this or if it's just a coincidence I don't know.

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        • nomadman
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          #24
          Originally posted by ghns1133
          thats true

          he had a weird build

          but he ha thick back leg an neck muscles and was kinda short

          u can be stocky and still have low body fat
          Juan Roldan, whom he fought, had an even weirder build. Enormous upper body and barrel chest, and spindly little legs. Could take a good punch as well.

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          • nomadman
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            #25
            Originally posted by joe strong
            the neck, shoulders & calves will tell you everything...big neck, shoulders & calves means he has solid base & should absorb punches better..
            I've recently begun to question the old adage "You can't build muscles on a chin." Whilst that still holds true, you can build muscles around the chin, and a thick neck and traps can't really hurt your ability to take a shot if you're already of the stocky disposition, or a fighter who naturally tenses up when you get hit. Very few shots ever land exactly on the sweet spot anyway, so anything which can increase stability and further cushion the head against impacts has got to be beneficial.

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            • jaded
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              #26
              A thick strong neck definitely stabilizes the vertebrates preventing nerve pinching. Samuel Peter comes to mind...he walks forward through punches unaffected...with the exception of Klitschko where he was just to small to get close enough to be only at the receiving end.

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                #27
                Originally posted by jaded
                A thick strong neck definitely stabilizes the vertebrates preventing nerve pinching. Samuel Peter comes to mind...he walks forward through punches unaffected...with the exception of Klitschko where he was just to small to get close enough to be only at the receiving end.
                Peter seems to be able to take straight right hands like they're nothing. There's a montage clip somewhere of his first fight with Wlad where he just eats right hand after right without visible effect. Uppercuts and hooks though tend to knock him loopy. Certain builds certainly have their strengths and weaknesses.

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                • Scott9945
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                  Who remembers Ed Hopson? Short and stocky southpaw from the very late
                  80s and the 90s.....who really had trouble taking a clean, hard shot.
                  I still think that Hopson had the fastest hands that I've ever seen. But no chin at all.

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                  • GrandpaBernard
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ghns1133
                    thats what i was getting at

                    there are always exceptions

                    but the guys with thick legs shoulders and neck are usually pretty durable
                    Sugar Ray Robinson was a lanky guy but had very impressive shoulders. It's definitely something to look at.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                      Sugar Ray Robinson was a lanky guy but had very impressive shoulders. It's definitely something to look at.
                      the shoulders neck and will power are all things that positivly affect ur chin IMO

                      i just was thinking about how stcoky guys usually tend to have shoulders neck and leg muscles that support them and help absorb punches

                      there isnt really a formula

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