Sugar Ray Robinsons Jab?

[Barn]

How great do you believe this was? I think it is ATG standard, perhaps not top tier but, a great weapon of his that gets overshadowed because of his other great qualities.

Where would you rank it on a Pound for Pound jabbers list?
What would you rate it out of 10?
Do you feel his jab is better than the other great Middleweights Hagler and Monzon?

[IronDanHamza]

Definitely not as good as Monzon's jab.

But, it is a very good, underrated, piercing jab and a great weapon.

Very technically sound with it and sharp.

[McGoorty]

How great do you believe this was? I think it is ATG standard, perhaps not top tier but, a great weapon of his that gets overshadowed because of his other great qualities.

Where would you rank it on a Pound for Pound jabbers list?
What would you rate it out of 10?
Do you feel his jab is better than the other great Middleweights Hagler and Monzon?

Golly,..... you do like Les, don't you.... yes a good challenger there..... you know I'm tempted to go with the Darcy option...... But , Darcy apart, I rate Robinson's jab as one of the all time great destructive of them all...... I rate Joe Louis's jab as the yardstick,... that was also a majority opinion amongst those who had seen the previous 3 or 4 decades of champions.... but there was a total bias towards HW's....... from what I've read, some of the great exponents of the jab were Abe Attell and Packey McFarland..... I've watched some of McFarland in action and his jab was every bit as good as they said he was. Packey was very quick, Attell I can only go bt what I've read.... but most of his great opponents suffered badly from Abe's wicked jabs...... Judging the greatest jabber of them all is impossible. As for Les darcy's jab, it seemed to be one weapon that none of his opponents could find an answer for. Darcy and Robinson were effective with the jab, but it was their other punches where the real danger lay, in Robinsons case, his left jab was a killer...... in Darcy's case,.. it was his crushing Right cross, but he also laid many men out cold with a single left hook............ I love talking about these guys, I will vote when you do Barn.

[McGoorty]

How great do you believe this was? I think it is ATG standard, perhaps not top tier but, a great weapon of his that gets overshadowed because of his other great qualities.

Where would you rank it on a Pound for Pound jabbers list?
What would you rate it out of 10?
Do you feel his jab is better than the other great Middleweights Hagler and Monzon?

Does a vote for Darcy mean that Robinson's only a 6 ??????...... You should have that Darcy vote at least in 9th position......... you know you are really tempting me to vote for Darcy.

[TheGreatA]

He was never a jab-oriented boxer, using it mostly as a tool to set up the combinations that he is famous for. In a few occasions he showed that he could dominate a fight with his jab alone, such as when he carried Charley Fusari the distance or when he fought his idol Henry Armstrong. On film he can also be seen using an effective jab while pressuring the cagey Sammy Angott.

[Toney616]

How great do you believe this was? I think it is ATG standard, perhaps not top tier but, a great weapon of his that gets overshadowed because of his other great qualities.

Where would you rank it on a Pound for Pound jabbers list?
What would you rate it out of 10?
Do you feel his jab is better than the other great Middleweights Hagler and Monzon?

off topic:
How would you describe srr defense?

[New England]

off topic:
How would you describe srr defense?

as good as it needed to be considering his chin, speed, offensive craft, and power

in terms of pure offense he's basically a lock for a one or two spot all time, depending on where you rank joe louis.


in terms of defense he's nowhere near the top ten.
probably not even close to the top 25 if you really want to go through the names. he could be hit (especially during the period of which there is film of him.) he would sacrifice some level of defensive orientation for offense.


he fought a 15 round pace and was defensively sound, but he punctuated things with brutal offense.

you don't get a reputation for having perhaps the greatest chin of all time shying away from contact and exchanges.


robinson had terrific rhythm
he threw a very well coordinated and clever jab. it was stiff and was more than enough to get a mans attention before the right hand and the hook, or to simply score points and break a man down.

[Barn]

off topic:
How would you describe srr defense?

He had a good defensive game overall good head movement and blocking ability but, he was there to be hit on occasion If I had to score it 8/10 from the footage I've seen. Very good lateral movement and timing which were probably his best defensive assets and he used these most to counterpunch in effective flurries. He also did tie up his opponent very well when need be.

As New England said though, nothing ground breaking.

[McGoorty]

He had a good defensive game overall good head movement and blocking ability but, he was there to be hit on occasion If I had to score it 8/10 from the footage I've seen. Very good lateral movement and timing which were probably his best defensive assets and he used these most to counterpunch in effective flurries. He also did tie up his opponent very well when need be.

As New England said though, nothing ground breaking.

You know what they say; "It's not the size of the dog in a fight, but the size of the fight in the dog".

[Rockin']

My trainer had me watching countless hours of Robinson, his movement and his jab. A jab is not a tool of destruction, it is a tool of precision that can cut and swell a fighter. A good solid jab will leave or create openings for the right hands and left hooks. The world today has for a big part left the tecnical works of the jab behind, how many fighters do you see today touching a guy in the belly with a jab, few. It's not a big shot but every breathe of air that you can force from your opponent is one less breathe of air that he will have in his reserve. Robinson was a master of the jab. I give him a 10.........Rockin'