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  • #11
    Originally posted by Bundana View Post
    1) Lee Oma - who had been ko'd 16 times, when he challenged Ezzard Charles.

    2) Marciano, Johansson, Lewis... and contender Ibeabuchi.

    3) Ali

    4) Butterbean

    5) Benitez
    1 iscorrect.
    How did you miss the 2, yours is incomplete...anyways well done.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Greatest1942 View Post
      Good...list of champions done. Now one contender.

      Anyways the first is the answer I am waiting to hear.
      Are you just looking for one? If not Joe Mesi is another.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Greatest1942 View Post
        1 iscorrect.
        How did you miss the 2, yours is incomplete...anyways well done.
        If you're talking about Bowe and Tunney - then neither beat every man they ever faced in the ring, so they can't be included in 2).

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Bundana View Post
          If you're talking about Bowe and Tunney - then neither beat every man they ever faced in the ring, so they can't be included in 2).
          Sure they did. Tunney's sole loss on his record is to Greb who he fought 4 other times with success. Bowe's only loss is to Holy field, who he beat 2 out of 3.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Sure they did. Tunney's sole loss on his record is to Greb who he fought 4 other times with success. Bowe's only loss is to Holy field, who he beat 2 out of 3.
            But Bowe never defeated Buster Mathis Jr.
            And Tunney had a NC with Jack Renault and a draw with Tommy Gavigan, both of whom he never met again.

            So how can we say, that these two beat everyone they faced?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Bundana View Post

              But Bowe never defeated Buster Mathis Jr.
              And Tunney had a NC with Jack Renault and a draw with Tommy Gavigan, both of whom he never met again.

              So how can we say, that these two beat everyone they faced?
              Because a NC is just that. It means the fight is not counted for what ever reason. By your reasoning my friend we shouldn't count newspaper decisions because there is no official outcome.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Because a NC is just that. It means the fight is not counted for what ever reason. By your reasoning my friend we shouldn't count newspaper decisions because there is no official outcome.
                On the contrary - a no contest IS counted (like in Bowe's total of 45 fights)!
                And how on earth can what I say be interpreted, as if I don't count newspaper decisions??

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Bundana View Post
                  On the contrary - a no contest IS counted (like in Bowe's total of 45 fights)!
                  And how on earth can what I say be interpreted, as if I don't count newspaper decisions??
                  If there is no winner or loser by ko, no verdict rendered for either fighter declaring who won, who lost or a draw, what is there to count?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    If there is no winner or loser by ko, no verdict rendered for either fighter declaring who won, who lost or a draw, what is there to count?
                    Ok, guess we just don't agree on the NC thing.

                    But do you maintain, that Tunney beat every man he ever faced?

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                    • #20
                      I have to agreed with Bundana on this one. This question came up on HBO once and I wrote my good friend Harold Lederman, saying that Bowe and Tunney did not beat everybody they faced. Jim Lampley wrote back by saying that I was 100% correct and that he never thought of that.

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