Roberto Duran is one I don't think has been mentioned yet.
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Is Jake Lamotta The Best Body Puncher Of All Time?
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lamotta isnt even close to being the best bodypuncher ever. simply going to the body alot doesnt make u a great bodypuncher, a great bodypuncher is accurate and sets up his punches downstairs skillfully. lamotta was busy to the body but he really used brute strenght and pressure to break ppl down rather than busting them up with accurate well timed body punching.
mccallum is always the first fighter on my mind when it comes to bodypunching, he would dissect his oponents with clever shots downstairs without leaving his head exposed and take punches in return.
i just watched mayweather-judah a few hours ago, thats a great example of effective bodypunching. mayweather in general is one of the best bodypunchers in recent years but ppl dont recognize it. they think someone winging a bunch of wide hooks to the body and hitting nothing but elbows is good bodypunching.
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Originally posted by The Surgeon View PostIts a shame Tyson let his body punching take a back seat, he looked like being a bit special in that department on his way up....
I still class him as a very good body puncher, he hurt alot of guys to the body and set things up from that but even i cant put him in the Frazier League, not even nearly...
absolutely
tyson was a bone breaker
i bet dudes pissed blood and all that good stuff when he was done with them
scary power
he knocked lots of guys out by setting them up to the body and getting their hands to drop as well
if his fights in his prime were longer we would have seen his opponents wearing down from the body work as well, instead of just covering their ribs while a quick kayo punch comes up top
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Originally posted by #1Assassin View Postlamotta isnt even close to being the best bodypuncher ever. simply going to the body alot doesnt make u a great bodypuncher, a great bodypuncher is accurate and sets up his punches downstairs skillfully. lamotta was busy to the body but he really used brute strenght and pressure to break ppl down rather than busting them up with accurate well timed body punching.
mccallum is always the first fighter on my mind when it comes to bodypunching, he would dissect his oponents with clever shots downstairs without leaving his head exposed and take punches in return.
i just watched mayweather-judah a few hours ago, thats a great example of effective bodypunching. mayweather in general is one of the best bodypunchers in recent years but ppl dont recognize it. they think someone winging a bunch of wide hooks to the body and hitting nothing but elbows is good bodypunching.
body punching is about breaking a man down and limiting his legs
mayweather doesn't really fight in the traditional sense of a break you down type body puncher
yes, he's effective with it because he's mastered distance
but to dismiss lamotta's bodypunching and cite mayweather's as more effective is pretty ridiculous
who has mayweather broken down?
lamotta gave ray robinson fits, bro
he beat him in his prime.
you want to know how effectively mayweather's body punches wear a man down?
he couldn't stop juan manuel marquez, a career FW
mayweather's just not active or close enough for the majority of his fights (especially early to the middle of the fight, when you must invest in the body to have it's effect show up later in the fight,) for me to consider him anywhere close to "the greatest body puncher ever"
especially after discounting lamotta lol
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Originally posted by New England View Postbody punching is about breaking a man down and limiting his legs mayweather doesn't really fight in the traditional sense of a break you down type body puncher yes, he's effective with it because he's mastered distance but to dismiss lamotta's bodypunching and cite mayweather's as more effective is pretty ridiculous who has mayweather broken down? lamotta gave ray robinson fits, bro he beat him in his prime. you want to know how effectively mayweather's body punches wear a man down? he couldn't stop juan manuel marquez, a career FW mayweather's just not active or close enough for the majority of his fights (especially early to the middle of the fight, when you must invest in the body to have it's effect show up later in the fight,) for me to consider him anywhere close to "the greatest body puncher ever" especially after discounting lamotta lol
i only mentioned floyd bcuz alot of ppl arent as familiar as they should with mccallum meanwhile everyone seen floyd fight. i just watched floyd fight judah like two hours ago and was specificly impressed with his bodypunching which was fresh in my mind when i read this thread, it was nothing but an example.
and btw bodypunching is about hitting ppl in the body (duh) which is one of many ways to break someone down. lamotta broke ppl down with pressure as much as his bodypunching, pressure doesnt count as bodypunching. floyd doesnt pressure his oponents but that doesnt make his bodypunchbing less impressive in its own right.
i primarily discount lamotta bcuz he left his face wide open when he went to the body, if he didnt have such a great chin he wouldnt have been able to get away with that and he still lost fights bcuz of it. a truly great bodypuncher or jabber or left hooker or whatever finds a way to land his blows without getting hit. i dont consider face first brawlers the best bodypunchers, i will always favor guys like mccallum and duran who can do the same work without taking punches in return.
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The fan in me wants to say Barerra or Mayweather but its Mike McCallum. They didnt call him the body snatcher just because it sounded good.
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Originally posted by No Ceilings View PostThe fan in me wants to say Barerra or Mayweather but its Mike McCallum. They didnt call him the body snatcher just because it sounded good.
Mayweather doesn't belong in this discussion at all. Fan or not.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostMayweather can certainly rip a body shot when he choses to but we are talking accorss the entire history of Boxing which is incredibely deep. Mayweather doesn't belong in this discussion at all. Fan or not.
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Originally posted by New England View Postabsolutely tyson was a bone breaker i bet dudes pissed blood and all that good stuff when he was done with them scary power he knocked lots of guys out by setting them up to the body and getting their hands to drop as well if his fights in his prime were longer we would have seen his opponents wearing down from the body work as well, instead of just covering their ribs while a quick kayo punch comes up top
And yeah u raise a fair point, Tysons Body work often didnt get the chance to take effect or even get going! Boom! Game Over lol
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostMayweather can certainly rip a body shot when he choses to but we are talking accorss the entire history of Boxing which is incredibely deep.
Mayweather doesn't belong in this discussion at all. Fan or not.
Off topic some more fighters whose body attack is too underrated is Hatton and Mickey Ward.
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