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Is Jake Lamotta The Best Body Puncher Of All Time?

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  • #21
    Roberto Duran is one I don't think has been mentioned yet.

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    • #22
      lamotta isnt even close to being the best bodypuncher ever. simply going to the body alot doesnt make u a great bodypuncher, a great bodypuncher is accurate and sets up his punches downstairs skillfully. lamotta was busy to the body but he really used brute strenght and pressure to break ppl down rather than busting them up with accurate well timed body punching.

      mccallum is always the first fighter on my mind when it comes to bodypunching, he would dissect his oponents with clever shots downstairs without leaving his head exposed and take punches in return.

      i just watched mayweather-judah a few hours ago, thats a great example of effective bodypunching. mayweather in general is one of the best bodypunchers in recent years but ppl dont recognize it. they think someone winging a bunch of wide hooks to the body and hitting nothing but elbows is good bodypunching.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
        Its a shame Tyson let his body punching take a back seat, he looked like being a bit special in that department on his way up....

        I still class him as a very good body puncher, he hurt alot of guys to the body and set things up from that but even i cant put him in the Frazier League, not even nearly...



        absolutely

        tyson was a bone breaker


        i bet dudes pissed blood and all that good stuff when he was done with them
        scary power

        he knocked lots of guys out by setting them up to the body and getting their hands to drop as well



        if his fights in his prime were longer we would have seen his opponents wearing down from the body work as well, instead of just covering their ribs while a quick kayo punch comes up top

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        • #24
          Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
          lamotta isnt even close to being the best bodypuncher ever. simply going to the body alot doesnt make u a great bodypuncher, a great bodypuncher is accurate and sets up his punches downstairs skillfully. lamotta was busy to the body but he really used brute strenght and pressure to break ppl down rather than busting them up with accurate well timed body punching.

          mccallum is always the first fighter on my mind when it comes to bodypunching, he would dissect his oponents with clever shots downstairs without leaving his head exposed and take punches in return.

          i just watched mayweather-judah a few hours ago, thats a great example of effective bodypunching. mayweather in general is one of the best bodypunchers in recent years but ppl dont recognize it. they think someone winging a bunch of wide hooks to the body and hitting nothing but elbows is good bodypunching.

          body punching is about breaking a man down and limiting his legs

          mayweather doesn't really fight in the traditional sense of a break you down type body puncher


          yes, he's effective with it because he's mastered distance


          but to dismiss lamotta's bodypunching and cite mayweather's as more effective is pretty ridiculous


          who has mayweather broken down?
          lamotta gave ray robinson fits, bro
          he beat him in his prime.



          you want to know how effectively mayweather's body punches wear a man down?
          he couldn't stop juan manuel marquez, a career FW



          mayweather's just not active or close enough for the majority of his fights (especially early to the middle of the fight, when you must invest in the body to have it's effect show up later in the fight,) for me to consider him anywhere close to "the greatest body puncher ever"

          especially after discounting lamotta lol

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          • #25
            Originally posted by New England View Post
            body punching is about breaking a man down and limiting his legs mayweather doesn't really fight in the traditional sense of a break you down type body puncher yes, he's effective with it because he's mastered distance but to dismiss lamotta's bodypunching and cite mayweather's as more effective is pretty ridiculous who has mayweather broken down? lamotta gave ray robinson fits, bro he beat him in his prime. you want to know how effectively mayweather's body punches wear a man down? he couldn't stop juan manuel marquez, a career FW mayweather's just not active or close enough for the majority of his fights (especially early to the middle of the fight, when you must invest in the body to have it's effect show up later in the fight,) for me to consider him anywhere close to "the greatest body puncher ever" especially after discounting lamotta lol
            i never said mayweather is a better bodypuncher than lamotta. i said mccallum is a better bodypuncher than lamotta. i said floyd is one of the best bodypunchers in recent years.

            i only mentioned floyd bcuz alot of ppl arent as familiar as they should with mccallum meanwhile everyone seen floyd fight. i just watched floyd fight judah like two hours ago and was specificly impressed with his bodypunching which was fresh in my mind when i read this thread, it was nothing but an example.

            and btw bodypunching is about hitting ppl in the body (duh) which is one of many ways to break someone down. lamotta broke ppl down with pressure as much as his bodypunching, pressure doesnt count as bodypunching. floyd doesnt pressure his oponents but that doesnt make his bodypunchbing less impressive in its own right.

            i primarily discount lamotta bcuz he left his face wide open when he went to the body, if he didnt have such a great chin he wouldnt have been able to get away with that and he still lost fights bcuz of it. a truly great bodypuncher or jabber or left hooker or whatever finds a way to land his blows without getting hit. i dont consider face first brawlers the best bodypunchers, i will always favor guys like mccallum and duran who can do the same work without taking punches in return.

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            • #26
              The fan in me wants to say Barerra or Mayweather but its Mike McCallum. They didnt call him the body snatcher just because it sounded good.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                The fan in me wants to say Barerra or Mayweather but its Mike McCallum. They didnt call him the body snatcher just because it sounded good.
                Mayweather can certainly rip a body shot when he choses to but we are talking accorss the entire history of Boxing which is incredibely deep.

                Mayweather doesn't belong in this discussion at all. Fan or not.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  Mayweather can certainly rip a body shot when he choses to but we are talking accorss the entire history of Boxing which is incredibely deep. Mayweather doesn't belong in this discussion at all. Fan or not.
                  Im with u Dan, Floyd has a great stiff left to the body, can whip the right in and is sneaky on the inside too but there is, when u consider the great depth of body punchers across HISTORY, no room for Floyd Mayweather as a consideration

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    absolutely tyson was a bone breaker i bet dudes pissed blood and all that good stuff when he was done with them scary power he knocked lots of guys out by setting them up to the body and getting their hands to drop as well if his fights in his prime were longer we would have seen his opponents wearing down from the body work as well, instead of just covering their ribs while a quick kayo punch comes up top
                    Im just lookin at ur sig there NE and thought id mention G-man, Clearly not an ATG body blaster but he was mean down there and dosnt get much credit for it.

                    And yeah u raise a fair point, Tysons Body work often didnt get the chance to take effect or even get going! Boom! Game Over lol

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Mayweather can certainly rip a body shot when he choses to but we are talking accorss the entire history of Boxing which is incredibely deep.

                      Mayweather doesn't belong in this discussion at all. Fan or not.
                      I wouldnt go that far. Hes an underrated body puncher. Its an aspect of his game that is way too overlooked. Hes clearly not the best ever in that category but I cant see a list of 50 Top body punchers and Little Floyd not making it. No way.

                      Off topic some more fighters whose body attack is too underrated is Hatton and Mickey Ward.

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