How would a Pea vs PBF fight at lightweight play out?

[studentofthegam]

Are you serious?

Pea getting stopped by anyone is highly unlikely, let alone Floyd.

I didnt make it onesided. Whats the problem? Stylistically I see a war at lightweight. I think most are confusing it with these guys at WW. Both would plant their feet and fight at 135. Mayweather at LW was rather tall and Sweet Pea about 5'5 so that would play a part. I think temperment would be the difference. Being that they have similarities in styles I belive Whitaker would be the first to take the lead and it would cost him. Floyd in the lighter weights didnt play around when he hurt you. He's also faster and has better timing than most of Pernell's opponents. I can also say in his defense that Floyd hasnt seen a Sweet Pea either but has fought guys with the speed. I recently watched the Whitaker/Nelson fight and kind of pulled out the parts where Floyd could have capitalized where Azuma couldn't. Its definitely a top five fantasy fight I'd like to see. Its simply my take on the outcome.

[Steak]

very fun matchup. I guess I just cant help but think Mayweather-Judah when thinking about a potential Mayweather-Whitaker fight. I would have to say on average Mayweather forces himself to become more offensive minded when fighting southpaws, ie Judah, Corley, Mitchell. Which sort of gives Whitaker an advantage right off the bat.

I think Whitaker's jab would be a big problem for Mayweather. I actually do NOT see his jab landing with too much regularity, but it would be used as a range finder to set up the left hand. So even if it isnt landing I think it would still a very important factor. It takes a lot of effort to continually get away from a jab as good as Whitaker's, and Mayweather's quick postering to his right side would inevitably lead to Whitaker following with a left hand after setting it up with his jab.

Behind his high guard I just dont think Mayweather could get the job done. He is very technically sound in his approach...the thing is that Whitaker had success against guys like Nelson and Chavez, and those were some of the best two pressure guys around.

And in the fact that Whitaker had an interesting grab and hit approach on the inside that was extremely effective complemented by very polished body punching, and overall I dont really see how Mayweather would bank in enough points to win. However, I do see his right hand landing on Whitaker a number of times...it was the punch Pea was overall most vulnerable to, and Mayweather has one of the best straight rights I can think of in a long time.

So...Whitaker by close decision in a technically excellent fight.
I think the action would be a bit better than people are thinking too, although not really a firefight either.

[RubenSonny]

I didnt make it onesided. Whats the problem? Stylistically I see a war at lightweight. I think most are confusing it with these guys at WW. Both would plant their feet and fight at 135. Mayweather at LW was rather tall and Sweet Pea about 5'5 so that would play a part. I think temperment would be the difference. Being that they have similarities in styles I belive Whitaker would be the first to take the lead and it would cost him. Floyd in the lighter weights didnt play around when he hurt you. He's also faster and has better timing than most of Pernell's opponents. I can also say in his defense that Floyd hasnt seen a Sweet Pea either but has fought guys with the speed. I recently watched the Whitaker/Nelson fight and kind of pulled out the parts where Floyd could have capitalized where Azuma couldn't. Its definitely a top five fantasy fight I'd like to see. Its simply my take on the outcome.

I often think back to the Nelson fight and I think Floyd would have to employ a similar startegy and I think it would play out similarly, I don't think Floyd hits as hard as Nelson though. Theres no way on earth that Floyd stops Whitaker though.

[IronDanHamza]

I didnt make it onesided. Whats the problem? Stylistically I see a war at lightweight. I think most are confusing it with these guys at WW. Both would plant their feet and fight at 135. Mayweather at LW was rather tall and Sweet Pea about 5'5 so that would play a part. I think temperment would be the difference. Being that they have similarities in styles I belive Whitaker would be the first to take the lead and it would cost him. Floyd in the lighter weights didnt play around when he hurt you. He's also faster and has better timing than most of Pernell's opponents. I can also say in his defense that Floyd hasnt seen a Sweet Pea either but has fought guys with the speed. I recently watched the Whitaker/Nelson fight and kind of pulled out the parts where Floyd could have capitalized where Azuma couldn't. Its definitely a top five fantasy fight I'd like to see. Its simply my take on the outcome.

I would argue their styles are quite distinctly different.

But I do agree Floyd would land his right hand but Whitaker would also land his left.

I think both fighters woulf get hit alot more than we are used to seeing them get hit.

I just can't se a stoppage. Both have good chins and both don't really have KO power to stop one another.

I see a chess match throughout.

[Steak]

the chances of a stoppage from either man in this matchup are...incredibly low.

were talking about two of the best defensive fighters ever, who both are not known for stopping opponents.

[studentofthegam]

I often think back to the Nelson fight and I think Floyd would have to employ a similar startegy and I think it would play out similarly, I don't think Floyd hits as hard as Nelson though. Theres no way on earth that Floyd stops Whitaker though.

Yeah Nelson went away from the head so much but was slow to the target. I think Floyd is faster and everyone that he fought seemed to change their tune about his power when they took those jabs to the body. Also with slower fighters Pernell would lean in bbehind a tight guard until he unleashed those hard body punches. I dont think Floyd would let him get comfortable there.

I would argue their styles are quite distinctly different.

But I do agree Floyd would land his right hand but Whitaker would also land his left.

I think both fighters woulf get hit alot more than we are used to seeing them get hit.

I just can't se a stoppage. Both have good chins and both don't really have KO power to stop one another.

I see a chess match throughout.

I think they definitely are similar in having passive/agressive style. Nobody's just alike but the brutal intent they had at LW had very distinct similarities just from opposite stances.Floyd definitely gets hit and pretty hard at times but with less than twenty KO's(Whitaker) I say Floyd is easily the harder puncher. At LW his power ranked way up there.

[IronDanHamza]

I think they definitely are similar in having passive/agressive style. Nobody's just alike but the brutal intent they had at LW had very distinct similarities just from opposite stances.Floyd definitely gets hit and pretty hard at times but with less than twenty KO's(Whitaker) I say Floyd is easily the harder puncher. At LW his power ranked way up there.

I'm not so sure.

Whitaker is a much more active fighter and has a much wider output than Mayweather does. He uses his jab much much more than Floyd does and hits the body alot more also. Floyd also doesn't really back up as much as Whitaker tends to.

I would agree that Floyd is probably the harder puncher of the two but Floyd doesn't hit that hard at 135 either.

I still can't see a stoppage. Both fighters are too smart and crafty to get stopped by the best of punchers. Let alone each other.

[$Bullsfam$]

Pernell by decision on work rate alone. Sweat Pea was too damn fast at any weight to let Mayweather do his thing. Sweat Pea would out work him with the jab all night.

[studentofthegam]

I'm not so sure.

Whitaker is a much more active fighter and has a much wider output than Mayweather does. He uses his jab much much more than Floyd does and hits the body alot more also. Floyd also doesn't really back up as much as Whitaker tends to.

I would agree that Floyd is probably the harder puncher of the two but Floyd doesn't hit that hard at 135 either.

I still can't see a stoppage. Both fighters are too smart and crafty to get stopped by the best of punchers. Let alone each other.

Floyd was pretty hard to the body also. Sweet Pea had his times when he threw good body jabs too. They are alike in that they were great defensively and could fight going backward. Pernell used his hips and leaning more to get out of the way and I just cant see him going straight back and getting away from a guy that punches that fast. And he didnt fight a lot at LW because he was on his "Gatti Mission" but I do think N'Dou would beg to differ about his power. Not to mention, even at 140 his hands looked pretty heavy on Chop Chop and Gatti. Gatti had been hit by bombs his whole career and I've never seen him that helpless, not even against DLH.

[IronDanHamza]

Floyd was pretty hard to the body also. Sweet Pea had his times when he threw good body jabs too. They are alike in that they were great defensively and could fight going backward. Pernell used his hips and leaning more to get out of the way and I just cant see him going straight back and getting away from a guy that punches that fast. And he didnt fight a lot at LW because he was on his "Gatti Mission" but I do think N'Dou would beg to differ about his power. Not to mention, even at 140 his hands looked pretty heavy on Chop Chop and Gatti. Gatti had been hit by bombs his whole career and I've never seen him that helpless, not even against DLH.

He has power at LW no doubt but it's hardly crushing. N'dou simply isn't a good fighter and that was more accumaltion rather than power.

I feel that Floyd's physical prime was at 140, although he had very little fights there. Physically, he just looked incredible. Good power, speed, reflexes, in his physical prime for me.

In fairness to Gatti, although ranked #1 at 140 at the time Mayweather fought him (excluding the Lineal Champion) he was near the end of his career and was clearly faded. Also, it was more to do with Floyd's accuracy and accumaltion rather than one punch power. Also Mayweather is by far the best fighter Gatti had ever fought.

Although I disagree with some, I do agree with alot of your points about this fight but I just simply can't see a stoppage.

Both fighters would make each other look worse than usual, that's for sure.