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  • #11
    a dud?

    Hagler was a CHAMPION, McCallum was a junior middleweight belt holder who I am sorry to say did not amount to much at 160, losing to Sumbu Kalambay, a fighter not exactly in the same category as Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
    Last edited by fitefanSHO; 05-17-2011, 05:09 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by fitefanSHO View Post
      a dud?

      Hagler was a CHAMPION, McCallum was a junior middleweight belt holder who I am sorry to say did not amount to much at 160, losing to Sumbu Kalambay, a fighter not exactly in the same category as Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

      Are you kidding?

      He beat Kalambay in the rematch to go along with beating Steve Collins, Michael Watson, Herol Graham, and of course a draw against an ATG James Toney

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      • #13
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
        Are you kidding?

        He beat Kalambay in the rematch to go along with beating Steve Collins, Michael Watson, Herol Graham, and of course a draw against an ATG James Toney
        Unfortunately, he's not kidding. He's just ignorant. Brimming with ignorance! And he may be a McCallum-hater even. What a nasty thing to be.

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        • #14
          I always rated McCallum. I would have liked to see him fight Leanard,Hearns and Hagler. He would have caused big problems for all of them. He was an underappreciated fighter,only boxing purists and other fighters knew how good he was. He was a high risk low reward fighter,the type people avoid. I just don't think there was enough in it reward wise for Hagler to take him on.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
            Unfortunately, he's not kidding. He's just ignorant. Brimming with ignorance! And he may be a McCallum-hater even. What a nasty thing to be.
            McCallum wanted to have megapaydays which meant trying to get fights with the likes of Hagler, Duran and Hearns. None of them wanted to face him, seeing him as too high risk and too low reward. With Hagler he wanted the little guys to move up and give him a payday. I think he was making around 1m for his title defenses against little known contenders, but against Duran amd Hearns he made around 6-10m.
            McCallum was willing to move up if the opportunity presented itself, it never did

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            • #16
              Originally posted by fitefanSHO View Post
              a dud?

              Hagler was a CHAMPION, McCallum was a junior middleweight belt holder who I am sorry to say did not amount to much at 160, losing to Sumbu Kalambay, a fighter not exactly in the same category as Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
              It should be pointed out that Kalamby was an elite fighter with a very impressive resume:
              Best Wins:
              Collins, Barkley, Graham, Graham II, McCallum
              McCallum losing to him in no way hurts his resume, especially as he avenged that loss as well.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Toney616 View Post
                It should be pointed out that Kalamby was an elite fighter with a very impressive resume:
                Best Wins:
                Collins, Barkley, Graham, Graham II, McCallum
                McCallum losing to him in no way hurts his resume, especially as he avenged that loss as well.
                It should also be pointed out Hagler is an ATG which is a different class from elite.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
                  It should also be pointed out Hagler is an ATG which is a different class from elite.
                  The only difference between Elite fighters and ATG fighters in my book is consistency. Its the difference between Jones and Toney and Hagler and Nunn

                  I can understand why those guys looked the other way, but at the same time most fighters at some point in their careers need another fighter to give them a shot. McCAllum should of got a shot against at least one of the fab four
                  Last edited by Toney616; 05-21-2011, 06:07 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Remember that McCallum was just the WBA champion at the time, Matthew Hilton(IBF) and Gianfranco Rosi(WBC) appeared equally good at the time. This was before McCallum won the middleweight title and before Julian Jackson won any big fights.

                    Did Hagler avoid Rosi and Hilton too, if just not fighting them means this I guess so.

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                    • #20
                      I want to know why he never faced Dwight Davison out of Detroit, the guy was the #1 contender for years........Rockin'

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