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  • #11
    he'll certainly have his name on the ballot at this point in my estimation


    he's had a good sturdy run of it and has enjoyed a good stretch of time at the top, especially considering he's so small, and smaller men usually get used up quickly


    as of right now i don't think he's quite there

    he was a monster coming up, and had a great undefeated run

    donaire exposed him (only later to be recognized as perhaps the best young fighter on the planet)
    agbeko outpointed him sturdily in a competitive fight
    and mares did likewise in my eyes.
    split decision d with Z gorres in the phillipines



    he'll be remembered as one of the best punching flyweights of recent memory
    the dude could bomb a guy out with one shot at 112
    only a few men in history can say that
    when he was a come forward destroyer at 112 his left hand was one of the most dangerous weapons in the sport
    he'll go down as a warrior, as well. he never backed down from anything, and even when he was dead to right against donaire, he did his best to gain his feet. a lesser man says **** this, and finds a soft spot on the canvas.)
    other than the donaire rematch (which his team avoided like the plague) he fought virtually everybody he could get in the ring


    and he did become a more subtle boxer as his career progressed. he looked very good against perez on saturday performing largely as a boxer.

    in my eyes he's got some serious work to do to get in
    but he's certainly worthy of being on the ballot
    and i consider him a great fighter
    Last edited by New England; 04-26-2011, 11:24 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
      And that win may be Donaire! Every1 forgets Vic was doing well in that fight until he lounged in carelessly and got koed. So no way should Donaire now have an easy time with Vic, in the rematch. It may produce a classic, a FOTY.
      If they fight now, Donaire absolutely blows Vic out. We can address this again if they ever actually do sign to fight.

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      • #13
        I dont see how he is HOF, unless he gets really lucky and no one is illegible at the same time as him.

        someone like Iran Barkley aint getting in, and hes accomplished more than Darchinyan...and Darchinyan aint exactly the most famous boxer today either.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Steak View Post
          I dont see how he is HOF, unless he gets really lucky and no one is illegible at the same time as him.

          someone like Iran Barkley aint getting in, and hes accomplished more than Darchinyan...and Darchinyan aint exactly the most famous boxer today either.
          no way first ballot.

          darch might not be the most "famous" but his fights are packed with his supporters and almost all of them are on major boxing networks.

          2 more good wins at 118 and i think he's gotta be up for consideration

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          • #15
            because they only let 3 in per year, its hard to see a scenario that he makes it. I believe he is a quality fighter though.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Steak View Post
              I dont see how he is HOF, unless he gets really lucky and no one is illegible at the same time as him.

              someone like Iran Barkley aint getting in, and hes accomplished more than Darchinyan...and Darchinyan aint exactly the most famous boxer today either.
              Like WHAT?!? Getting a lucky shot ko win and a gift decision over Hearns?! BS! Barkley got beat by any other top fighter he fought, he was garbage and had only one way of fighting-coming forward and swinging like a robot.

              Vic on the other hand beat all the best opposition as a super flyweight and almost all the best at flyweight, with the exception of Donaire. And now he's starting to look good at bantam. Barkley's only really impressive title capture was against Darrin Van Horn, an overated fighter.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
                Like WHAT?!? Getting a lucky shot ko win and a gift decision over Hearns?! BS! Barkley got beat by any other top fighter he fought, he was garbage and had only one way of fighting-coming forward and swinging like a robot.

                Vic on the other hand beat all the best opposition as a super flyweight and almost all the best at flyweight, with the exception of Donaire. And now he's starting to look good at bantam. Barkley's only really impressive title capture was against Darrin Van Horn, an overated fighter.
                What gave you the impression that Barkley's decision win over Hearns was a gift?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  What gave you the impression that Barkley's decision win over Hearns was a gift?
                  The fact that I SAW and SCORED it. It was a BS decision, Tommy won clearly. It was the kd that did it, but it was no big kd really, Tommy was just off balance. I had Tommy clearly ahead, there were quite a lot of close rounds, but most of them shoulda been given to Tommy the Hitman.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
                    The fact that I SAW and SCORED it. It was a BS decision, Tommy won clearly. It was the kd that did it, but it was no big kd really, Tommy was just off balance. I had Tommy clearly ahead, there were quite a lot of close rounds, but most of them shoulda been given to Tommy the Hitman.
                    I watched that fight live on PPV, and it was clear that Barkley won. There was no controversy or protests about that decision either. And you're kidding yourself if you don't think Barkely hurt Hearns several times in that fight.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                      I watched that fight live on PPV, and it was clear that Barkley won. There was no controversy or protests about that decision either. And you're kidding yourself if you don't think Barkely hurt Hearns several times in that fight.
                      Thank you for your opinion but frankly...it stinks.

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