Vic D- Borderline HOF or a ways to go?

[Scott9945]

Thank you for your opinion but frankly...it stinks.

Okay...and good luck with all your biased boxing agendas. :

[BigStereotype]

Thank you for your opinion but frankly...it stinks.

A greener Donaire was outboxing Darchinyan at his best weight. If they rematched, it would be murder. Donaire has absurd power and excellent skills, precisely what he needs to pick apart Darchinyan's wild brawler style. It would be another one punch KO, I promise you. Try listening to other people for once.

[Pastrano]

A greener Donaire was outboxing Darchinyan at his best weight. If they rematched, it would be murder. Donaire has absurd power and excellent skills, precisely what he needs to pick apart Darchinyan's wild brawler style. It would be another one punch KO, I promise you. Try listening to other people for once.

You mean people like you? No thanks. I trust my own judgment. And that judgment tells me Donaire got a free ko that night, he won't get another one. A free ko means Vic didn't think and rushed in and made his job too easy. If u WATCH the fight u'll see that Donaire was not dominant in the first 4 rounds. But its all a waste telling you this. You got your own blind worship and thats it.

I do give Donaire props, why can't you give Vic some??

[Scott9945]

You mean people like you? No thanks. I trust my own judgment. And that judgment tells me Donaire got a free ko that night, he won't get another one. A free ko means Vic didn't think and rushed in and made his job too easy. If u WATCH the fight u'll see that Donaire was not dominant in the first 4 rounds. But its all a waste telling you this. You got your own blind worship and thats it.

I do give Donaire props, why can't you give Vic some??

So you really think that Donaire hasn't improved more over the years? And you really think that Darchinyan is the better bantamweight of the two? Seriously?

[BigStereotype]

You mean people like you? No thanks. I trust my own judgment. And that judgment tells me Donaire got a free ko that night, he won't get another one. A free ko means Vic didn't think and rushed in and made his job too easy. If u WATCH the fight u'll see that Donaire was not dominant in the first 4 rounds. But its all a waste telling you this. You got your own blind worship and thats it.

I do give Donaire props, why can't you give Vic some??

I do! I love to watch him fight. He's just not on Donaire's level.

[Walt Liquor]

A greener Donaire was outboxing Darchinyan at his best weight. If they rematched, it would be murder. Donaire has absurd power and excellent skills, precisely what he needs to pick apart Darchinyan's wild brawler style. It would be another one punch KO, I promise you. Try listening to other people for once.

Ithought the fight was very close at the time donaire put him to sleep.

[Scott9945]

Ithought the fight was very close at the time donaire put him to sleep.

Maybe so, but the bottom line is that Darchinyan didn't even make it half way through the fight.

[BennyST]

I think he's a HOFer. Not first ballot, as that is reserved for the true greats of the game usually. But, I think he's one of the very best and certainly one of the most overlooked champions of the last decade for what he's achieved and how he's gone about it.

He's had a better run and fought more top fighters/champs than just about any other fighter not named Pac over the years and has many underrated wins. His win over Pacheco is highly overlooked imo.

Anyway, I think a title win at 118 would cement it, but as it stands now I do think he's in at some point.

Pastrano: he didn't beat Agbeko and he wasn't doing that well against Donaire and wouldn't do any better now. Donaire literally stands head and shoulders over him. Literally. That alone would make it very, very difficult for Vic to beat him. Donaire shouldn't be, and probably never should, have been a Flyweight. He's as big as most lightweights in the ring. I was rewatching his fight recently with Marquez and it looks scary and disturbing. It genuinely looks like a flyweight is fighting a fighter from 140. Go watch it again.

Vic can't beat that type of fighter that has the skill Donaire does. It would be tough going if Doniare was an actual normal sized flyweight. His speed, power and counter skill are enough to deal with, then you have the fact he's as big as any 135 pound fighter today and it's as good as done.

Despite that one fight, and that should in no way hold him out of the HOF (would you say the same of Montiel who got more brutally knocked out in two rounds?), he has had an amazing career and still has some great opportunities left but is fast approaching the end at 36. Great underrated little big man.

[forget]

Darchinyan's career isn't done yet but if he retired today I couldn't see him making it.

[BallisticAffair]

Every1 forgets Vic was doing well in that fight until he lounged in carelessly and got koed

Uh, hardly. He landed some shots, but any reasonable scorer had it 39-37 at the stoppage (by which time Vic's eyes were cut and swelling) and Darchinyan was just one mistimed lunge away from being laid out for every second of that fight. Donaire was the general, by turns countering and attacking Vic and hitting his body, and was timing him for the inevitable big one the whole 5 rounds.


Yeah, Vic just "lounged in" that one time and Donaire got lucky enough to catch him with the same left hook he was catching a lunging Vic with all night.


At bantam, forgetaboutit. Vic gets destroyed. Donaire can take Vic's bombs, of which few would land, and Vic can't take Donaire's, which would land soon into the fight. Quick and brutal is how it would go down. Darchinyan will never be on Donaire's level is all.


I have a lot of time and respect for The Armenian Bull, though.





BTW, can a moderator do something about the guy who unnecessarily tells other posters that their views "stink" in what should be a civil, scholarly subforum, please?