Joe Frazier tribute

[Joeyzagz]

Joe Frazier was a good fighter. I got em ranked 13, but If D33pwaters wants to rank him top 5, I wont call him absurd.

How is it absurd to rank Frazier top 5 when he is universally top 15 on most lists....Is it really that far fetched someone has em a couple spots ahead of my personal ranking? Is it a reason to act like an asshole 24/7 and beg for D33p's banishment?

This is the mentality of some people here. You list a recognized ATG in your top 10 and they act like you said Jumbo Cummings or something.

[someone090]

frazier was a great fighter

[JAB5239]

Not yet but Sonny has.

If Sonny has to be censored then Zags and ItsOVAH should be censored as well. They are both the same extreme just opposite ends.

At least Sonny has logic and reason behind his opinion and even still he rates Lennox in the top 15 or 20, whereas Zags is so ridiculous that he rates him 3 only because he knows he will get flamed if he rates him above Louis and Ali, but without a doubt he believes Lewis is greater than Ali and Louis and in a h2h he believes Lewis would beat them both.

ItsOVAH believes Lewis to be the greatest of all time. Now which is more ludicrous, Sonny's rating of top 15 or 20 or a couple of idiots running around claiming Lewis to be the greatest of all time.

Why is one acceptable and another not?

Sonny's sole purpose here now is to flame and hate. He says the same things over and over and ignores questions calling out his logic.He's not objective about Lewis and the majority agree on that.

[Steak]

I just rewatched Frazier-Ali one, and man, Frazier was fighting like a man possessed that night. not just with a determination to win, but to humiliate Ali. Remember him mocking him with his hands down, and pulling him off the ropes just for the hell of it?

Frazier was so exhausted at the end of that fight. I think he wanted to punish Ali more than beat him.

damn good boxing match.

[JAB5239]

I just rewatched Frazier-Ali one, and man, Frazier was fighting like a man possessed that night. not just with a determination to win, but to humiliate Ali. Remember him mocking him with his hands down, and pulling him off the ropes just for the hell of it?

Frazier was so exhausted at the end of that fight. I think he wanted to punish Ali more than beat him.

damn good boxing match.

One of the all time best!

[Vadrigar.]

One of the all time best!

It's the 40th aniversary of FOTC today!

[GJC]

Frazier has to be in anyones top 10 IMO. Didn't have longevity of some but given his style that was never going to be on the menu. At the end of the day he lost to Foreman and Ali no real shame there, Louis is a top 2 HW but h2h I wouldn't back him against Foreman with much confidence. Re resumes the question for me is Dempsey, Marciano, Louis and Johnson are in the top end of most historians top 10s, did they beat anyone you wouldn't think Frazier would beat?

[Vadrigar.]

Frazier has to be in anyones top 10 IMO. Didn't have longevity of some but given his style that was never going to be on the menu. At the end of the day he lost to Foreman and Ali no real shame there, Louis is a top 2 HW but h2h I wouldn't back him against Foreman with much confidence. Re resumes the question for me is Dempsey, Marciano, Louis and Johnson are in the top end of most historians top 10s, did they beat anyone you wouldn't think Frazier would beat?

GJC, How do you think Frazier does against someone like Max Schmeling or Max baer?

[sonnyboyx2]

Frazier has to be in anyones top 10 IMO. Didn't have longevity of some but given his style that was never going to be on the menu. At the end of the day he lost to Foreman and Ali no real shame there, Louis is a top 2 HW but h2h I wouldn't back him against Foreman with much confidence. Re resumes the question for me is Dempsey, Marciano, Louis and Johnson are in the top end of most historians top 10s, did they beat anyone you wouldn't think Frazier would beat?

GJC you say Frazier never had longevity yet he was champion for 5yrs

[GJC]

I'd favour Frazier in both but a focussed Baer has a chance for sure. Schmelling I rate highly but I just can't see him beating Joe