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  • #51
    Too bad we can't vote for both. Steele asked Taylor if he was alright but Taylor just stared and did not respond giving Steele no choice but it was unfortunite that it was the very end of the bout and I believe if the fight wasn't stopped time would have ran out and Taylor would have won. Either way there would have been a rematch and if Taylor won you would have to give Chavez a fair chance in a rematch. Taylor looked pretty sharpe after the fight moving up to welterweight against Aaron Davis dispelling any belief this fight ruined him. If any fight ruined him it was making the mistake of moving up to 154 to fight Terry Norris.
    Last edited by TBear; 02-17-2011, 06:26 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

      And what does that have to do with it? Your opinion was not in question. What Taylor did after the Chavez fight has nothing to do with Steel's controversial stoppage. You cant explain the relevance and that speaks for itself.
      no it does not you are right , in an earlier post you used the word agenda do you think steele had an agenda.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by rsf View Post
        no it does not you are right , in an earlier post you used the word agenda do you think steele had an agenda.

        I absolutely believe that. Especially after watching him ref the Hearns-Iran Barkley fight.

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        • #54
          And Steele knows full well as an experienced ref that he should have done his job correctly. But he didn't do it.

          That's what makes this such a great topic.. Tops to the TS (Young Robbed)..

          Believe me it's bloody hard to defend Steele, and wherever there's a King, there's a stink in the air, but did Steele know there was only 2 seconds to run?... Somehow, i doubt it, and if say for instance, he approximated at 10 secs... Would Taylor have lasted another 10 seconds?... Imo, i don't think so.... One thing Chavez can do better than most is take a man down late and he was pig hungry for Taylor's blood having smelt it.

          As i've already stated, it's one of the harshest decisions i've ever seen, but under the rules of pro-boxing, Steele acted within his rights. It certainly wasn't the right decision for Taylor because i'm sure he could have held on for another 2 seconds, but not much longer i'm afraid. He'd given his all by then & Chavez was like a cannibal with a machette.
          Last edited by mickey malone; 02-17-2011, 03:09 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by mickey malone View Post
            And Steele knows full well as an experienced ref that he should have done his job correctly. But he didn't do it.

            That's what makes this such a great topic.. Tops to the TS (Young Robbed)..

            Believe me it's bloody hard to defend Steele, and wherever there's a King, there's a stink in the air, but did Steele know there was only 2 seconds to run?... Somehow, i doubt it, and if say for instance, he approximated at 10 secs... Would Taylor have lasted another 10 seconds?... Imo, i don't think so.... One thing Chavez can do better than most is take a man down late and he was pig hungry for Taylor's blood having smelt it.

            As i've already stated, it's one of the harshest decisions i've ever seen, but under the rules of pro-boxing, Steele acted within his rights. It certainly wasn't the right decision for Taylor because i'm sure he could have held on for another 2 seconds, but not much longer i'm afraid. He'd given his all by then & Chavez was like a cannibal with a machette.
            I have no doubts that Steele knew there were mere seconds left. He gets paid to know those things. And two, Chavez was standing in the middle of the ring. He would have to go to a neutral corner before the action could resume. And Steele knew that too. That would leave Chavez with no time. Not even 10 seconds was enough time to finish Taylor off. No way. It's not like Taylor got up at nine with no legs, one punch from a KO. He got up and he was standing steady and straight. Steele robbed Taylor that night and I won't say anything else about it for a while after this.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
              There is no getting around that as far as I'm concerned. You would think Taylor needed oxygen and a stretcher after reading some of the exaggerated comments about his condition following the knockdown.

              Yeah, Taylor was so damaged that he fought again less than five months later. And he didn't lose another fight for over two years.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                Yeah, Taylor was so damaged that he fought again less than five months later. And he didn't lose another fight for over two years.
                Taylor was damaged in that fight. A Meldreick Taylor at 60% would have been enough to beat alot of guys, Taylor had that much natural talent.

                I would assume that it was a good month before Taylor was doing anything close to a real workout after that bout. While Primo Ramos was a descent fighter he has no where the skill of Taylor, even a damaged Taylor.......Rockin'

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                  Taylor was damaged in that fight. A Meldreick Taylor at 60% would have been enough to beat alot of guys, Taylor had that much natural talent.

                  I would assume that it was a good month before Taylor was doing anything close to a real workout after that bout. While Primo Ramos was a descent fighter he has no where the skill of Taylor, even a damaged Taylor.......Rockin'
                  Of course Taylor was damaged in that brutal fight. And he was never the same fighter again. But less than a year after the JCC fight Taylor beat a very good unbeaten welterweight (Aaron Davis) for the title.

                  Once again, my objection is those who make it sound like Chavez turned him into a vegetable, and that Steele did the only thing he possibly could to save poor Meldrick from being killed in the ring.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                    Of course Taylor was damaged in that brutal fight. And he was never the same fighter again. But less than a year after the JCC fight Taylor beat a very good unbeaten welterweight (Aaron Davis) for the title.

                    Once again, my objection is those who make it sound like Chavez turned him into a vegetable, and that Steele did the only thing he possibly could to save poor Meldrick from being killed in the ring.
                    Taylor was badly beaten through the fight by the heavier fisted Chavez. Taylor had the points victory but Chavez had the heavy side of damage inflicted.

                    Taylor was not a vegetable after the bout but I have seen fighters changed by much less then what Taylor absorbed. I think that it definately affected him on the negative side.

                    Had the bout continued, even for only a few seconds longer, it could have resulted in a death in my eyes. It's a brutal sport. Are you able to say with 100% certainty that Taylor could have absorbed 1 or two more heavy blows?.......Rockin'

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                      Taylor was badly beaten through the fight by the heavier fisted Chavez. Taylor had the points victory but Chavez had the heavy side of damage inflicted.

                      Taylor was not a vegetable after the bout but I have seen fighters changed by much less then what Taylor absorbed. I think that it definately affected him on the negative side.

                      Had the bout continued, even for only a few seconds longer, it could have resulted in a death in my eyes. It's a brutal sport. Are you able to say with 100% certainty that Taylor could have absorbed 1 or two more heavy blows?.......Rockin'
                      I can say for certain that Chavez would never have landed another punch if the fight wasn't stopped. Just look at the clock and where Chavez was when Steele stopped it. He had to be in a neutral corner. You can ask Librado Andrade.

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