Black and White syndrome

[The Surgeon]

Roy Jones would be champion in any era he fought in. Holyfield and B Hop are good fighters and have a good chance to become champion. Roy Jones is without a doubt on the level or beyond any champions from the past... From 160 to 175...

Theres always gonna be certain fighters from different era's that have any one guys number but for me Jones could live in any era

The other guys too actually

[BigStereotype]

Theres always gonna be certain fighters from different era's that have any one guys number but for me Jones could live in any era

The other guys too actually

I don't actually know if I can think of a certain style that I would say would be good against Roy, because Roy doesn't really have a style. He just does whatever pops into his head and trusts his body to carry him through it. If he had more ATG competition, we could be talking about him as a top 5 P4P fighter in history.

[The Surgeon]

I don't actually know if I can think of a certain style that I would say would be good against Roy, because Roy doesn't really have a style. He just does whatever pops into his head and trusts his body to carry him through it. If he had more ATG competition, we could be talking about him as a top 5 P4P fighter in history.

Even wins over guys like Bank, Benn and Michalzewski would have helped his case. Still even without those guys if he retired after the Ruiz bout then believe me plenty of people would be rating him as high as that anyway

Yeah i cant think of a particular style that would bother Roy, I just ment in general there will always be someone who can beat u

[sonnyboyx2]

I am not knocking Roy Jones or his amazing talents.. but Sugar Ray Leonard said from as far back as when Roy was an amateur that Roy has a huge problem and that problem is his chin... Roy had amazing hand-eye cordination and fantasic legs which kept him out of trouble and his chin protected yet as soon as those legs started to slow down Roy's chin let him down just like Ray Leonard had said all those years previous...Roy at 175lbs against guys like Michael Spinks, Dwight Braxton, John Conteh, Victor Galindez, Eddie Mustapha Muhammad, Saad Muhammad i dont know, but i do know that those fighters are all vastly superior in every aspect of the sport than are Clinton Woods, Glen Kelly, Derek Harmon, J.C. Gonzales, Richard Hall, David Telesco, Richard Frazier, Otis Grant, Montel Griffin or any other fighter Roy Jones fought at 175lbs

[Thread Stealer]

I think Jones would be a top contender, or a champ, in the great LHW era of the late 70s/early 80s, until he faces Spinks and loses.

Jones-Qawi is also a really interesting matchup.

[Steak]

I dont.

I think in terms of specific eras. for example, I thought the HW era or the early 1900s was weak as hell, got better and better and then primed in the late 60s/ early 70s, and then started going downhill again.

situations like that. there are certain points in history where the WW, or LHW, or MW or whatever division simply sparks up and becomes awesome, then melts away again.

Overall I think the 80s/90s boxing was at its best from what Ive seen, and I became a fan in the 2000s.

[DarkTerror88]

i became a fan in the 90s. i think boxing was best between 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s. with a bit of the early 80s and late 20s. SO what you have said is complete hogwash. I trust my eyes and gut. Joe Frazier is one of my favorite fighters, but i sure as hell dont think hes a top 1 or 2 or 3 ATG. Maybe anywhere between 5 or 10. I try to grade those fighters i like more harshly to make it seem more fair and balance things out.

[RubenSonny]

I dont.

I think in terms of specific eras. for example, I thought the HW era or the early 1900s was weak as hell, got better and better and then primed in the late 60s/ early 70s, and then started going downhill again.

situations like that. there are certain points in history where the WW, or LHW, or MW or whatever division simply sparks up and becomes awesome, then melts away again.

Overall I think the 80s/90s boxing was at its best from what Ive seen, and I became a fan in the 2000s.

Not surprising when you used Tommy Burns to represent it.

[bklynboy]

It is true that boxers from other decades are better than boxers of the last 20yrs with the exception of Pacquiao & Mayweather, there is virtually not a single boxer who can compete other than those two with fighters from pre 1990 and even those two are not recognised as the best in their respective weight-classes in terms of All time Greatness... it is my opinion that the champions we have had in every weight class over the last 20yrs would struggle to be contenders in some era's of the sport, also we have so many Championship belts on offer that we have 4 or 5 boxers in each weight division calling themselves the champion as well as in the sport today these champions do not have to fight the best in their weight class like in other era's of the sport.

I agree (although I would include more than just Manny and Mayweather). There are two main reasons for this one: the top fighters don't fight each other. They get a belt, maybe two and then avoid each other. It's rare when a division has more than a few HofFame fighters in their prime at the same time. The result is that today the top fighters don't fight top quality opposition.

Secondly fighters don't fight as often and don't have the experience they otherwise would.

[SCtrojansbaby]

I agree (although I would include more than just Manny and Mayweather). There are two main reasons for this one: the top fighters don't fight each other. They get a belt, maybe two and then avoid each other. It's rare when a division has more than a few HofFame fighters in their prime at the same time. The result is that today the top fighters don't fight top quality opposition.

Secondly fighters don't fight as often and don't have the experience they otherwise would.

I think the top fighters not fighting each other thing is way overblown and happened some in every era. Also not fighting as often should be considered a good thing as you can't be at your best fighting 10x a year.

In football and basketball and baseball everybody knows that the 70s Steelers or 60s Celtics or the 69 Mets as great as they were would not have chance against 90% of teams now. Teams now are just much bigger stronger faster because of modern science but mainly because back then sports was a part time job for the most part and you didn't train year round like athletes do now. Why are Boxing fans so late to the party?