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  • #11
    Originally posted by IronMike* View Post
    you should watch McCallum vs Jackson and McCallum vs Toney I. They are both on youtube

    Do you rate him so high, based on his power alone?

    Solid defensively, but I never thought much of his offense

    why?

    In terms of ability I would say B class, but I think his power knocks him up a grade

    True. He was never going to have a long career, even if everything had gone right for him.
    Im not gonna lie, I have only ever watched the Toney fights lol

    For Foreman I kinda ask myself the question, Who could beat a prime George Foreman? and I cant think on too many people.

    He had all the skills and everything on his day.

    I never thought Nigel Benn was that good, I dont think he would has given Roy Jones too many problems

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
      I didn't fight pro very long, I saw the writing on the wall to say about the damage.
      Its a harsh sport
      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
      I went jr.welter to jr. middle. Couldn't get fights and when we would agree to a date these cats were all backing out, so I took what I could get. I remember I was lined up with Rocky Martinez like 5 times, they always balked on me. I fought out of Jackie Kallens stable, got on tv a few times then just walked away. Long story there...........Rockin'
      Thanks for the info. Whats Jackie Kallen like and did you ever get to meet Toney?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by katsidis View Post
        Im not gonna lie, I have only ever watched the Toney fights lol
        Amazing fight, especially the TVKO version
        Originally posted by katsidis View Post
        For Foreman I kinda ask myself the question, Who could beat a prime George Foreman? and I cant think on too many people.
        Ali, Liston, Holmes
        Originally posted by katsidis View Post
        He had all the skills and everything on his day.
        I've never been impressed with his offense.
        Originally posted by katsidis View Post
        I never thought Nigel Benn was that good, I dont think he would has given Roy Jones too many problems
        He had a punchers chance, thats about it

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        • #14
          Originally posted by IronMike* View Post
          Amazing fight, especially the TVKO version

          Ali, Liston, Holmes

          I've never been impressed with his offense.

          He had a punchers chance, thats about it
          Sorry man I was talking about Nunn there.

          IMO Foreman beats Liston, but thats just me

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          • #15
            Originally posted by IronMike* View Post
            Its a harsh sport

            Thanks for the info. Whats Jackie Kallen like and did you ever get to meet Toney?
            Jackie is one of the coolest most awsome people I know. Just a great lady.

            James and I fought on the same amatuer team, had the same trainer for awhile. James left our gym and then when I turned pro I went with Jackie and James was there again. Jackie told me that James was always jealous of me for whatever reason so we didn't get along with eachother up at Galaxy. There were some days I thought we were going to end up throwing fists outside of the ring on the floor. Lmao, he was always so loud......Rockin'

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            • #16
              Originally posted by katsidis View Post
              Sorry man I was talking about Nunn there.
              cool
              Originally posted by katsidis View Post
              IMO Foreman beats Liston, but that's just me
              Do you know if there is any footage of their sparring sessions?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                Jackie is one of the coolest most awsome people I know. Just a great lady.
                ive been trying to find stuff online about here. I have some stuff in my book called the dark trade. The writer spends time with her and Toney before and after the Fallout
                Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                James and I fought on the same amatuer team, had the same trainer for awhile. James left our gym and then when I turned pro I went with Jackie and James was there again. Jackie told me that James was always jealous of me for whatever reason so we didn't get along with eachother up at Galaxy. There were some days I thought we were going to end up throwing fists outside of the ring on the floor. Lmao, he was always so loud......Rockin'
                Thanks for the info
                Happy new year as well

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by IronMike* View Post
                  ive been trying to find stuff online about here. I have some stuff in my book called the dark trade. The writer spends time with her and Toney before and after the Fallout

                  Thanks for the info
                  Happy new year as well
                  James blames Jackie for him losing the title to Jones. James was calling EVERYBODY out and she made the fight. James was the one ****ing around during training camp in that one, not Jackie........Rockin'

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                    James blames Jackie for him losing the title to Jones. James was calling EVERYBODY out and she made the fight. James was the one ****ing around during training camp in that one, not Jackie........Rockin'
                    Its always easier to blame someone else, his career never recovered from the twin sacking of Kallen and Miller. He was crazy to do that

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by IronMike* View Post
                      Its always easier to blame someone else, his career never recovered from the twin sacking of Kallen and Miller. He was crazy to do that
                      Bills a great guy, so knowledable about the sport. Up at Galaxy my trainer would never let me speak with him. Later on at a different gym I got to spend some time with Bill. I'm glad that I had the oppertunity, that guy has some of the funniest stories of boxing going WAY back in the day.........Rockin'

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