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  • #11
    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
    Calzaghe was similar to Ottke in that he only fought in his back yard and against class D opponents as well as ducking Glen Johnson (thrice), Ottke & Mickelcheski
    This is not true. Joe fought most of his best opponents outside of Wales.

    Hopkins in Las Vegas
    Mario Veit in Germany
    Will Mcintire in Denmark
    Bika and Lacy in Manchester
    RJJ in Madison Square Garden

    Ottke would have 3 losses on his record if he went half the places Calzaghe went. Im not even sure if Ottke owns a passport?

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    • #12
      Lennox Lewis, Floyd Mayweather, Carlos Monzon, Calzaghe.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
        Lennox Lewis was truly awful in every aspect. Here he is exposed as the phony that he is.
        I hope you're kidding

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        • #14
          Originally posted by young_robbed View Post
          I hope you're kidding
          On a scale of poor, average, good - please rate Lennox Lewis.

          Footwork - Poor
          Speed - Poor
          Power - Average
          Chin - Poor
          Movement - Poor
          Defense - Average
          Overall athletic ability - Poor
          Boxing Skills - Average

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          • #15
            Roberto Duran? Saoul Mamby?

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            • #16
              Jim Jeffries, before the ill-fated comeback.

              Not an all-time great but a very good fighter who retired as champion: Ernesto Marcel, won the featherweight title and retired after his final defence against a guy named Arguello.

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              • #17
                Funny how the only times Calzaghe fought on the big stage he cherry picked either an old man (Hopkins) or a completely washed-up "name" (Jones)

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                  On a scale of poor, average, good - please rate Lennox Lewis.
                  Using measurements like speed, footwork, movement to judge a 6'5 240 lber is like using motorbike specs to to judge an Abrahams Tank. Lennox's job is to destroy his opeponent, not engage in a speed contest.

                  Having said that, he is the fastest, most coordinated Heavyweight over 6'4. Its almost unfair for a boxer to be so big & powerful yet agile at the same time.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
                    Using measurements like speed, footwork, movement to judge a 6'5 240 lber is like using motorbike specs to to judge an Abrahams Tank. Lennox's job is to destroy his opeponent, not engage in a speed contest.

                    Having said that, he is the fastest, most coordinated Heavyweight over 6'4. Its almost unfair for a boxer to be so big & powerful yet agile at the same time.

                    How is the weather there on Fantasy Island?


                    So unfair to be a boxer with such a poor chin. Look at him stumbling around, as you can see his legs are gone as he falls forward into the referee and even as he is held by the ref his legs continue to buckle. You should be thanking that referee, as he may have saved Lewis from taking more unnecessary punishment.
                    Last edited by CarlosG815; 12-11-2010, 08:02 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
                      Having said that, he is the fastest, most coordinated Heavyweight over 6'4. Its almost unfair for a boxer to be so big & powerful yet agile at the same time.
                      That's like claiming a kid is the smartest ****** in the special-ed school: And?

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