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Glen Johnson 2 wins away from becomeing a all time Great!

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  • #21
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
    That was actually not a controversial decision.
    I just assume any Ottke victory against a recognizable name was a robbery.

    I mean, I remember thinking David Starie might have beat him and Starie was ****e.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
      It was a close fight and he didn't deserve to win. Dawson snuck out a close fight. It was just a close fight that Johnson lost. He didn't deserve anything. I think it would have been worse if he won. Dawson won that fight more than Johnson did.

      Even if he did beat Dawson, so what? His biggest win is Roy Jones. After that, Tarver, after that, who? Montell Griffin, Clinton Woods? He also lost Tarver and drew and lost to Woods. They are all his big wins. Jones, Tarver (also lost to), Woods (drew and lost to), Griffin.

      Now, his loss list; Merqui Sosa, Joseph Kiwanuka, Silvio Branco, Bernard Hopkins, Sven Ottke, Dawson, Omar Sheika, Syd Vanderpool, Julio Cesar Gonzalez, Derrick Harmon, Cloud, Tarver and Dawson.

      To be honest, I'm not even sure he should be a HOFer, even with wins over Ward and Froch. It's not as if they are close to be anything like HOFers themselves. They are just good, solid champs at the moment, nothing more, nothing less.

      He has a grand total of one HOFer on his resume, that being a guy who had just been knocked out in his previous outing in two rounds.

      He's the guy you want to get into the HOF, not necessarily the guy who deserves to. He's been a great fighter as he got older, but that doesn't stop the fact that he's lost about three times as many big fights as he's won. The majority of good fighters he's faced, he's lost to. Yes, some of them were bad decisions but most were not. The Dawson fight wasn't a bad decision. It wasn't close to what some people like to call a robbery and I had Dawson winning.

      Even with those guys as wins, he struggles to become a HOFer. Not close to being any form of ATG. Really though, being a HOFer is an ATG: from the lower tier ATGs to the P4P greats. HOFers are meant to be all the greats of each era and I don't think Johnson has been a great of his era.
      Awesome post.

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