Conn-Ketchel

[JAB5239]

In your opinion who ranks higher p4p, and who would have won in a h2h match up at say 168?

[Obama]

Conn out boxes Ketchel. But I rate Ketchel higher p4p.

[HaglerSteelChin]

In your opinion who ranks higher p4p, and who would have won in a h2h match up at say 168?

short answer: I personally have Ketchel slightly higher on the P4P list, Ketchel in around 25-30 range, while i have Conn around the mid 30's.

H2H, two fighters from different eras, Conn is naturally bigger and more technical, while Ketchel seem to be more unorthodox and his blows were more wide, of course looking at old footage the speed of the film may highlight technical flaws, but i would favor conn h2h.

[Barn]

Conn out boxes Ketchel. But I rate Ketchel higher p4p.

Co-sign....

[Kid McCoy]

In your opinion who ranks higher p4p, and who would have won in a h2h match up at say 168?

I find Conn more impressive. Remember he actually started out at welter and has better wins than Ketchel does from middleweight through heavy. He also came closer to beating the great heavyweight champion of his era than Ketchel did. If they fought he'd probably out-box Ketchel, although Ketchel would be a major danger throughout.

[DarkTerror88]

Im going to play Devils Advocate and say that it MIGHT not look good for Conn if Ketchel catches him. But otherwise i see Conn outboxing him fairly easily.

[Kid McCoy]

Im going to play Devils Advocate and say that it MIGHT not look good for Conn if Ketchel catches him. But otherwise i see Conn outboxing him fairly easily.

But Conn did have a great chin. He absorbed about 50 flush shots from Louis before going down and Louis was superior to Ketchel in power and finishing ability. Undoubtedly he could be hurt by Ketchel but I think he'd have the chin, skill and savvy to survive if he was hurt.

[DarkTerror88]

But Conn did have a great chin. He absorbed about 50 flush shots from Louis before going down and Louis was superior to Ketchel in power and finishing ability. Undoubtedly he could be hurt by Ketchel but I think he'd have the chin, skill and savvy to survive if he was hurt.

Meh when your right your right.

McCoy KO1 DT88

[Scott9945]

Ketchell is one of my favorite old time fighters, so I'm a little biased. But while Ketchell was a killer in the ring, he just doesn't seem to match up very well with Conn.

[PEBBLES!]

He didn't need to elaborate because Chuvalo did indeed lose clearly, twice, to Ali - only delusional twats believe otherwise.


As for the thread, I have only seen two Ketchel fights and I don't see him being able to handle Conn's movement. He did Knock down a 209 pound Johnson, so he might have a chance to drop Conn as well but I don't believe he'll be able to land cleanly.


Conn's performance vs Louis I is one of my favourite fights and I've seen it dozens of times. Conn was able to stand toe-to-toe for brief periods in that fight and trade punches with the Brown Bomber, out-pointing Joe in several exchanges, even buckling the champs legs. He put together some brilliant combinations in that fight.


I can't make a comment comparing their resumes because I don't know much about Stanley's record.