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  • #41
    Originally posted by rocco1252 View Post
    haha the guy who dogs fight after fight and should have had his belt taken away atleast a year ago! Haha and sorry Lewis was horrible, the guy couldnt fight had a bum chin and his only advatage was his size. You have Hearns on there but where's Gatti a great fight non the less should have been ahead of Mayorga atleast!
    I seriously hope you're not comparing Gatti to Hearns.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by wpink1 View Post
      I would rank Mayweather clealry as #1, he has moved up from 130 and beaten everyone he has faced...Sluggers, boxers, legends..bigger men..etc... He has done in theire own backyard, own their own terms...etc.. Who else can say that they have moved up from 130 to 154 remained unbeaten, won WBC titles, not ibf, IBO, WBO...but WBC titles the official and most accliamed title in boxing. Who else can say that they moved up 24 pounds and beat a fighter the quality of DLH...who can say that since 1985. Ray Leonard (my favorite) got great kudos for his win vs Hagler when he moved u 13 pounds (yes he was also retired too). Love him or hate him, he is doing it all.

      People jump on him because he is not the most exciting fighter at the higher wieghts. However they fail to realize he is fighting much bigger men, most of the time. He is doing this, and miracoulusly he is the one who has all the energy at th end of the fight to win almost every late round of any fight he is in. Generally gaining weight slows down a fighter and tires them out..Not Mayweather!

      Give him his due, the man ( oh i forgot to say I dislike him) is simpy the best we have seen since leonard, and the best with skills since Roy Jones.

      Roy Jones IMO is 2nd, and the only reason he is 2nd is because he did not have the quality of fights that a Mayweather has. However, the man made mistake after mistake, but you know what he was fast enough so that no one could make him pay for it, with a loss on his resume until he was 35. WOW. He did beat Hopkins and Toney in their peak years and at effective fighting weights. He should have fought Benn, McCllellan (but he became paralyzed)Jackson, DM, etc...This would have solidified him. Skill wise if you factor in his speed was soooooo overwhelming, I rank him skill wise the best since young Ali or Robinson, even over Leonard. Yes over Leonard, skill wise, but what made Ray was skill, speed, combined with heart...and smarts.
      Lets see Hearns won belts in 5 weight divisions, but in a greater range, from welterweight all the way to light heavy (28 pounds) I'm obviously not counting the two belts he won at cruiserweight (WBU and IBO.) Oscar De La Hoya won 6 belts, same 5 weights as Mayweather, but also middleweight (30 pound range.) The fact that Floyd beat a semi-retired Oscar with 1 fight in 3 years who had lost 2 of his last 4 doesn't mean too much. Floyd #1 in the last 22 years? I suggest you watch more boxing.

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      • #43
        Gavin..I need to watch more boxing...Your saying DLH and or Hearns, better than Mayweather is a complete Joke. I think the world of Hearns,but the fact he got stopped at his original weight class, stopped at 160 and stopped at 168...I do agree that 2 of these losses were to alltime greats,but the fact is they are losses. Dlh is by far one of the most overrated fighters to ever lace up gloves, if we are calling him a legend or all time great.

        Whitacker......very very very iffy decision
        Quartey....... great last round but lost IMO
        Chavez ........ old at the time he fought him
        Mosley...... lost twice
        Hopkins ......stopped by a body punch.
        Trinidad......he ******ly gave this fight away by running the last 3 rounds..

        DLH has fought a whose who list of great fighters, but he has not beaten any of those fighters to the point where you left the fight knowing that DLH beyound a shadow of a doubt. I am not talking about a gift decision here or there, I am talking about every singe figt he had was a guess who won, unless your talking about Chavez who was old at the time...

        Mayweather has beaten Correlles, hernandez, Gotti, Judah, DlH at 154 (when he practicly gave DlH every single negotiated advantage one could ever imagine), Now if he beats Hatton, and it would have been Mosley but now Cotto....You have to place him at the top of the list since Leonard. No one else has done that, and moved up from weight classes like he has versus the quality of fighters he has and remained undefeated.

        You can hate him but those are facts.

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        • #44
          Hearns is a better fighter than Mayweather and in addition, a horrible matchup for Floyd as well.

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          • #45
            pound per pound hearns is not a better fighter than floyd...but at welterwieght I would give hearns the nod. Study the facts. hearns 3 times put to sleep..Mayweather barely ever touched the canvas, and is undefeated even as he has moved up from 130 to 154.

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            • #46
              Roy Jones, Tyson, and Hagler gotta be top 5.

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              • #47
                Hagler not since 1985...he only had Mugabi, and maby another win, then his loss to Ray since 1985

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by wpink1 View Post
                  pound per pound hearns is not a better fighter than floyd...but at welterwieght I would give hearns the nod. Study the facts. hearns 3 times put to sleep..Mayweather barely ever touched the canvas, and is undefeated even as he has moved up from 130 to 154.
                  ONE fight at 154 against a boxing promoter with 1 fight in 3 years and having lost 2 of his last 4, in which he sc****d by with a SPLIT decision. At 147, one of the most talented divisions in boxing, if not the, he fights Baldomir, Judah, and Mitchell instead of fighting Williams, Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Cintron, etc, and then instead of fighting these guys now, he fights a 140 pounder that looked terrible in his only fight at 147. Yup, Mayfeather is the best ever.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by wpink1 View Post
                    pound per pound hearns is not a better fighter than floyd...but at welterwieght I would give hearns the nod. Study the facts. hearns 3 times put to sleep..Mayweather barely ever touched the canvas, and is undefeated even as he has moved up from 130 to 154.
                    At least you admit Hearns would beat Floyd at 147, add Ray Leonard to that, then go to 135, Shane Mosley and Roberto Duran would have beaten him, in their primes of course. So how can he be the best fighter in the last 22 years?

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                    • #50
                      Easily. First off ....Duran had issues with speed and boxing. He quit when he faced Ray when Ray boxed him, and Ray my favorite fighter ever was not as good defensivly as Mayweather was.

                      Yes Hearns would destory Mayweather at 147, stylistically it is a unwinnable fight for Mayweather to fight Hearns, even Paul Williams who throws soo many punches that a much smaller fighter only has a chance if the makes it a war. This is not a Mayweather style, at least not what we have seen at 147. You have some good points about the names at welter, however he has called out Mosley many many many times, and now Mosley finally got some balls and has said he would fight him,,,but oooops he lost to Cotto. I Honestly feel that Mayweather will fight Cotto, and if he does and beats him that hs hatton, judah, Cotto, DLH, Gotti, Correles, Baldimir...etc...No one else you can name has fought a resume like that and remained unbeaten. That is why you have to rank him up there.

                      Does he leave a lot to be desired with his style, yes he does, but he wins! So Duran moved up and got his ass beaten repeatedly around the same age as Mayweather...leoanrd beat him, Hearns stopped him , Benetix beat him, and Hagler. it is funny that Duran fans always seem to forget the ass whippings he took all by the age of 34. Mayweather has moved up and remained unbeated, and has fought fighters as good as Benetiz. Maybe not a Hearns, or Leonard, or Hagler... But Duran lost those fights. Mosley got his beat by Forrest, Wright, and now Cotto...yes he is older but when he was younger he only beat DLH...the rest of fights were vs who?

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