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Is Ken Norton stylistically the worst matchup for either Klitschko?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
    Yes, Gonzales was Rid**** Bowe's last really great performance. Gonzales was no turnip, he had a decent amateur pedigree....but Bowe was terrific.

    The third Holyfield result was good but, neither man was amazing that night......and while Bowe vs Golota 2 was a terrific fight for the fans, that wasn't the Bowe I knew fighting that night.

    As for whether Bowe knocks out Vitali, its just a personal rule that I wont predict knockouts against guys that it has never happened to. For all Vitali's faults......I rate that guy's chin. I dont doubt Bowe could knock anyone out, he was very heavy handed, so its not beyond the realms of possibility.
    i see no reason why he would not KO Vitali.. there is lots of talk about Vitali having a great chin yet he has never fought any opponents who are able to test his chin as they are all clubfighter/journeyman class fighters who he has fought

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    • #12
      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
      i see no reason why he would not KO Vitali.. there is lots of talk about Vitali having a great chin yet he has never fought any opponents who are able to test his chin as they are all clubfighter/journeyman class fighters who he has fought

      As I said, theres no reason why Bowe couldn't knock 'anyone' out.

      I can scarcely believe that there is not a scutch of young heavyweights out their training their behinds off to become the next big thing in world heavyweight boxing. The man who beats both Klitschkos will make a fortune!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
        It wouldn't even be close. He outboxes Vitali and knocks Wlad out.

        I'd respect either for taking a fight with anything like a prime Bowe.
        I agree.I think both bowe and lewis for that matter would handle the klitschkos

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        • #14
          Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
          Rid**** Bowe would knock out both Klitschko brothers
          the thread is about ken norton lol

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          • #15
            Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
            His style was built to completely neutralize what Wlad and Vitali do, which is keep their opponents at range and pepper them with jabs and straights. Ken Norton was able to get past Ali and Holmes, I doubt he'd have much a problem doing the same to Wlad or Vitali, who's jabs aren't half as quick as Ali or Holmes.

            Norton was also in incredible shape, going 15 rounds easy and was a strong guy, so while he would face a disadvantage being smaller, he would not be bullied inside like fighters today are, and would not be worn down over 12 rounds by their size. Once he did get inside, he would have the clear advantage.

            Is there a worse match up for the Klitschkos then Ken Norton?
            norton has 2 chances against either guy.slim and none.no way in hell he outboxes either for 12 rounds without taking at least a few bombs.then after that its lights out

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            • #16
              Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
              norton has 2 chances against either guy.slim and none.no way in hell he outboxes either for 12 rounds without taking at least a few bombs.then after that its lights out
              Norton "OUTBOXED" Muhammad Ali over 12rds and fought Larry Holmes to a split verdict over 15rds.. Norton liked tall opponents as he nearly killed Duane Bobick & Jose Louis Garcia both 6ft 4ins as well as beat Big Jack O'Halloran & Stanford Harris both 6ft 6ins.. Norton had a brutal overhand right and also a very decent left-hook, he could jab and also apply the pressure.. Neither of the Klitschko brothers have ever fought an opponent in their career's who was in the same league/class as Ken Norton... Norton vs either brother would be ..... TIMBER!

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              • #17
                Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
                norton has 2 chances against either guy.slim and none.no way in hell he outboxes either for 12 rounds without taking at least a few bombs.then after that its lights out
                Ken Norton is vastly better in every department than Kevin Johnson, Chris Arreola, Shannon Briggs, Eddie Chambers, Sultan Ibragimov & Sam Peter who all went 12rds with the Klitschko Brothers and if Lamon Brewster & Corrie Sanders can wipe-out Wlad and Chris Byrd can make Vitali quit then Ken Norton would drop these two like a sack of potato's... to claim otherwise is exaggeration as the brother's have not fought any opposition who in any way come close to the experience Ken Norton has

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by check hook View Post
                  Simply....NO. Tyson is stylistically their worst matchup, particularly for Wlad.


                  Actually I think they are the worst style match up for Tyson. Tyson never looked great against big and tall Heavyweights that could neutralize his attacks by clinching inside. Even if Tyson beat either one he wouldn't look good doing it.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                    Actually I think they are the worst style match up for Tyson. Tyson never looked great against big and tall Heavyweights that could neutralize his attacks by clinching inside. Even if Tyson beat either one he wouldn't look good doing it.

                    I dont think so. Either Klitschko is made for a fighter who can slip their pawing jabs, get inside and detonate with hooks. Everytime I watch either of their fights I find myself shouting at the TV 'slip that lazy pawing jab, and hook'. But none of these big lump challengers seem to have the reactions or handspeed to even attempt it.

                    Tyson was excellent at slipping and hooking, one good example is the knockout of Carl Williams, Tyson slips his jab and connects with an immediate left hook.

                    I actually thought prime Tyson (85-91) fought well against the taller heavyweights that he faced.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Sugarj View Post

                      I actually thought prime Tyson (85-91) fought well against the taller heavyweights that he faced.
                      Did Tyson ever face a heavyweight who wasn't taller than him? Holmes was 6'4", Spinks 6'3", Bonecrusher 6'4", Tucker 6'5", Thomas 6'3", Bruno 6'3", Williams 6'3", Biggs 6'5", Ruddock 6'3" and so on.

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