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  • Canelo Phresh
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    Joe Frazier Beats The Klits, Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield

    Prime Joe Frazier beats em all. With the Tyson fight being the most entertaining with a few knock downs and a devastating KO over Tyson. Being glass chinned but resembling a fractured image of Ali, Lewis puts up a decent 6 rounds before tasting to many left hooks and succumbing to Smokin Joe. The Klitchko's last longer than Lewis but even they cant run for ever from Joe's bobbing and weaving and taste more leather than they ever have and being glassed chinned as they fall to the best left hook ever.
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    Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
    Prime Joe Frazier beats em all. With the Tyson fight being the most entertaining with a few knock downs and a devastating KO over Tyson. Being glass chinned but resembling a fractured image of Ali, Lewis puts up a decent 6 rounds before tasting to many left hooks and succumbing to Smokin Joe. The Klitchko's last longer than Lewis but even they cant run for ever from Joe's bobbing and weaving and taste more leather than they ever have and being glassed chinned as they fall to the best left hook ever.
    Holyfield had a work rate equal to Joe, a cast iron chin, and a pretty decent size advantage. That's a tough, tough fight for Frazier.

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    • Canelo Phresh
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      Originally posted by CarlosG815
      Holyfield had a work rate equal to Joe, a cast iron chin, and a pretty decent size advantage. That's a tough, tough fight for Frazier.
      that was the one fight i couldnt confidently put a 1 liner defeat for but i still feel frazier wins.

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        I don't think he can beat Tyson because he wasn't the hardest puncher, and trading with Tyson is not the best thing. I don't think he'd be able take that many Tyson hooks. It'd probably be like Foreman-Frazier although a bit more exciting and not as one sided, but Tyson would probably win I think with multiple knockdowns. I just don't think you can really beat Tyson by going straight at him by working inside while taking his shots especially when you don't hit as hard as him.

        Holyfield was able to bully him on the inside and make it a little dirty to frustrate him and Tyson was shot to hell against Lewis. Bad style match up I think for Tyson.

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          Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
          Prime Joe Frazier beats em all. With the Tyson fight being the most entertaining with a few knock downs and a devastating KO over Tyson. Being glass chinned but resembling a fractured image of Ali, Lewis puts up a decent 6 rounds before tasting to many left hooks and succumbing to Smokin Joe. The Klitchko's last longer than Lewis but even they cant run for ever from Joe's bobbing and weaving and taste more leather than they ever have and being glassed chinned as they fall to the best left hook ever.
          I have always enjoyed pitting fighters against Frazier cognitively. Frazier had a good chin, a devastating punch, and unlimited heart and stamina. The latter being his trademarks. The two bloodiest battles in Fantasy Boxing history are Frazier-Tyson and Frazier-Marciano IMHO. The best 3 pressure fighters in heavyweight history that I can recall!

          Obviously Prime Frazier VS the two, even when he fought Ali the first time he was starting to erode, a pressure fighter's prime is very short.

          I would give the Tyson fight to Frazier. Tyson slows considerably after round 4 whereas Frazier simply keeps on and keeps on, getting hotter and hotter with every round. I can see Frazier getting out of a rocky first 3 rounds, easily going Tyson's way. Tyson wasn't the puncher Foreman was by any stretch of the imagination and Prime Frazier is not Foreman-Frazier either. I see Tyson's motivation, punch output, and just overall heart failing him later on, he loses the UD.

          I don't think Lewis can stay away, I also don't think he has the stamina to fight the pace Frazier is going to bring, I see a late one punch KO. If Lewis has the stamina, he gets the decision or a late TKO.

          The Klits are relatively one dimensional compared to Lewis, they lack his footwork, his punching power, and Wlad lacks even his chin...Like severely watered down versions of Lennox Lewis.

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            #6
            Originally posted by CarlosG815
            Holyfield had a work rate equal to Joe, a cast iron chin, and a pretty decent size advantage. That's a tough, tough fight for Frazier.
            Holyfield-Frazier is about as good of a matchup you could ever make for a brutal action fight. No way that they both don't come out of it badly damaged.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Natedatpkid
              I don't think he can beat Tyson because he wasn't the hardest puncher, and trading with Tyson is not the best thing. I don't think he'd be able take that many Tyson hooks. It'd probably be like Foreman-Frazier although a bit more exciting and not as one sided, but Tyson would probably win I think with multiple knockdowns. I just don't think you can really beat Tyson by going straight at him by working inside while taking his shots.

              Holyfield was able to bully him on the inside and make it a little dirty to frustrate him and Tyson was shot to hell against Lewis. Bad style match up I think for Tyson.
              I dont think Holyfield is lying when he says that Foreman hits harder than Tyson and Im sure young Foreman harder than old Foreman. That said I know Tyson ****s but I think Fraziers chin is proven enough to theorize that its tough enough to absorb several Tyson hooks and uppecuts. That said to better explain my hypothesis Tyson doesnt have KO power over Frazier. I do believe he knocks Frazier down but Frazier knocks him down. Frazier ultimately is a better breed of champ than Mike was. I think Frazier cracks that chin before Tyson breaks his.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Scott9945
                Holyfield-Frazier is about as good of a matchup you could ever make for a brutal action fight. No way that they both don't come out of it badly damaged.
                I agree, that would be one of the greatest fights ever, much like Holyfield-Tyson 1.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CarlosG815
                  I agree, that would be one of the greatest fights ever, much like Holyfield-Tyson 1.
                  It would be an awesome fight. A real picm them fight but I think Frazier takes it...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
                    It would be an awesome fight. A real picm them fight but I think Frazier takes it...
                    I also believe Frazier beats Holyfield.

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