Rocky Marciano: Not even top 50 ATG

[Spartacus Sully]

no **** sherlock.its obviously referring to the "never lost a fight part"

obliviously not as theres obliviously more then just marciano and calhagze to have never lost a fight in all of boxing.

so obiviously its referring to the entire sentence........

dominant heavy weight champ and never lost a fight.

[XionComrade]

When you look at those old fights and even the photo's of those guys, there is no way Marciano was 5'11. Or Louis 6'2.

They usually add an inch or two to help bill the fight. Marciano always looked 5'9 or so and Louis about 5'11 maybe 6 feet tall.

I agree with the premise of the thread as well, Marciano wasn't that good, just tough and lucky that the division was in a transitional period for him to play the role of scavenger.

He wouldn't fare well against the 70's HW's much less the Klitschko's who would absolutely lay waste to him.

I would say that if their ever was a time to want to be Heavyweight champion, it is TODAY, with this division, it is the weakest one overall I have ever seen, I highly doubt their is anyone in it that has the punch to get rid of Rocky. In the 70s you have Foreman, probably the biggest mismatch in history (Marciano-Foreman), Ali who can just stay away from Rocky's short punches, and several other really great matches for him but Rocky still fights his ass off against them all, something that just doesn't happen in today's division...

I do think the Klits would have a good shot against him, because of their long reach and good-enough footwork to stay away, They would NOT KO him and it would NEVER be a blow out...They just don't have the power or ability to put those punches together to end it. They are horribly overrated due to the fact all they have to fight are obese 50 year olds and 9000 year old war veterans...

[Scott9945]

I would say that if their ever was a time to want to be Heavyweight champion, it is TODAY, with this division, it is the weakest one overall I have ever seen, I highly doubt their is anyone in it that has the punch to get rid of Rocky. In the 70s you have Foreman, probably the biggest mismatch in history (Marciano-Foreman), Ali who can just stay away from Rocky's short punches, and several other really great matches for him but Rocky still fights his ass off against them all, something that just doesn't happen in today's division...

I do think the Klits would have a good shot against him, because of their long reach and good-enough footwork to stay away, They would NOT KO him and it would NEVER be a blow out...They just don't have the power or ability to put those punches together to end it. They are horribly overrated due to the fact all they have to fight are obese 50 year olds and 9000 year old war veterans...

Really happy to see that you haven't resorted to hyperbole.

[Bastian Loc]

I would say that if their ever was a time to want to be Heavyweight champion, it is TODAY, with this division, it is the weakest one overall I have ever seen, I highly doubt their is anyone in it that has the punch to get rid of Rocky. In the 70s you have Foreman, probably the biggest mismatch in history (Marciano-Foreman), Ali who can just stay away from Rocky's short punches, and several other really great matches for him but Rocky still fights his ass off against them all, something that just doesn't happen in today's division...

I do think the Klits would have a good shot against him, because of their long reach and good-enough footwork to stay away, They would NOT KO him and it would NEVER be a blow out...They just don't have the power or ability to put those punches together to end it. They are horribly overrated due to the fact all they have to fight are obese 50 year olds and 9000 year old war veterans...

If that were true, they wouldn't knock almost everyone they fight out. Of course they have the power. Roach said Klitschko punches harder than Mike Tyson.

[XionComrade]

If that were true, they wouldn't knock almost everyone they fight out. Of course they have the power. Roach said Klitschko punches harder than Mike Tyson.

I want to see the article or it didn't happen :P

Regardless, you think Vitali hits as hard as Tyson, and to a lesser extent if you think Wlad does. Who has he KOed? Noone of interest...How many one punch KOs has either of them had over their overblown bums? Hardly any...Even Wlad, the big hitter of the two, took 7 rounds to TKO probably the worst heavyweight champion ever, Hasim Rahman...Lennox Lewis KOed him in 4 rounds, with one punch that ripped his face open...some 7 years before...Look at the effect the Klits punches have on the opponents, and look at some of the sick **** Prime Tyson did to people...Watch them both in training, I have seen many a hard hitting Middleweight hit harder than either of the Klits(Jeff Lacy, Jackson, Mcclellan), and Jackson was even more devastating than Tyson for one hit power...Now imagine what any truly devastating puncher could do to this division...Bring 50 something year old George back!

[Scott9945]

he is not even a top 100 atg,marciano was good for the couple years he fought in his era,other than george foreman i think the eras from the 70s down there is not one heavyweight that would be able to beat a fighter in todays top 100

Congratulations on your ignorance.

[Forza]

WW2, fighting old opponents, fighting mostly people his same size, fighting mostly bums were all reasons why marciano did so well.

[mrboxer]

Really happy to see that you haven't resorted to hyperbole.

who are you i have never seen or read any post of your and you make a comment like that about my post that is filled with boxing smarts,

[Scott9945]

who are you i have never seen or read any post of your and you make a comment like that about my post that is filled with boxing smarts,

I have over 15,000 posts here. You are a troll with no credibility. The post that you replied to wasn't even directed to you. Hope that helps you catch up. Mucho gusto.

[Scott9945]

WW2, fighting old opponents, fighting mostly people his same size, fighting mostly bums were all reasons why marciano did so well.

World War II ended in 1945. Marciano turned pro in 1947. Sorry to bother you with facts.