Fighters who have been an inspiration to you.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

If a man commits homicide but then later says he shouldn't have done it because it's wrong, does it change anything?

That's irrelevant. My argument toward you was aimed at your accusation of his personality. Reply to the topic of the comment if you're going to respond.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

I did with an analogy, but you didn't get it.

Even if someone's personality changes, it doesn't change their past. He may not have been a woman beater, say, 10 years after the incident. But at one time, he was.

Terrible sense of logic. That analogy is still irrelevant. One action does not determine your entire legacy and personality. What you're describing is your own intolerance. I stole something from a store when I was 14 and I was caught. I was a thief for a day. Am I now? No, I demonize it. Should one judge me based on something I did many years ago? It takes one mistake to change ones views. It's almost like testing waters.

Also, that is only one account of Louis beating a woman, and the only one that is known. So is it fair to assume he's done it more than once? It's completely two different things when you say someone is a woman beater than to say he beat a woman.

It's well known Louis went through a phase of drug abuse, and I wouldn't be surprised if this happened during his great phase of his depression. You have to add the factors of stress one is going through. You can't just label someone based on the cover of an action. That is one thing that bothers me is when people hear a rumor, take it, and then run with it without questioning motives and adding any the variables and factors one had to face.

Did you know Joe Louis? No, and neither did we. The important thing is, about the topic, that what he showed to the public and media was extreme generosity, respect, and humble well-being. Notice how everyone in this thread remembers him that way. That shows the effect and how much one act of violence can be over-shadowed by an entirety of ones impressions on America. The man was a star since his twenties. In an entire lifetime, do you expect one to never do something ****** or something that is frowned upon regardless of what it is? If there's one thing I do as far as judgment goes, I base my judgments off of consistency rather than a rarity.

[BennyST]

Wow. Too many to name. All the respectful guys; Tszyu, Arguello, Mancini etc. Anyone who went through tough ****/horrible losses and came out the other side; Duran, Ray Leonard, Hagler, Pep....

Too many to think of right now.

[blaze778]

Hagler was for being my favorite fighter since I was 5.

Holyfield for having the heart and determination to beat top heavyweights despite being a natural cruiserweight. Always came back when you thought he was done.

Bowe II, Tyson I, and the Mercer fights are what made him a hero to me. And losing efforts in the Moorer I and Bowe I and III come to mind as well.

And Gatti for being Gatti.

[StarshipTrooper]

I did with an analogy, but you didn't get it.

Even if someone's personality changes, it doesn't change their past. He may not have been a woman beater, say, 10 years after the incident. But at one time, he was.

So who's sockpuppet alt are you? :loser9:

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[Willy Wanker]

fighters who gave me inspiration:

george foreman for being the oldest heavyweight champ back when titles still meant something, well kind of. and for inventing the george foreman grill.

gatti for being such a warrior.

joe louis for all the racism he had to overcome and his awesome title reign. and knocking out schmelling.

pacquiao for breaking records and coming from a really poor upbringing.

mayweather for being so skilled in the ring and the dance floor.

butterbean for being fat, ugly and knocking people out.

[KlownvonnomaD]

Even tho I wouldnt considered myself a big fan of his, I've always liked Antonio Tarver.
First pro fight at 28 and went on to have a fairly decent career, just goes to show it's never too late.

Winky Wright is another one, a guy that was pretty much ignored for most of his career, but he kept at it and got his rewards in the end.

[Barn]

Even tho I wouldnt considered myself a big fan of his, I've always liked Antonio Tarver.
First pro fight at 28 and went on to have a fairly decent career, just goes to show it's never too late.

Winky Wright is another one, a guy that was pretty much ignored for most of his career, but he kept at it and got his rewards in the end.

"Got any excuses tonight Roy?" was an absolute classic, lol.

[Toney616]

Even tho I wouldnt considered myself a big fan of his, I've always liked Antonio Tarver.
First pro fight at 28 and went on to have a fairly decent career, just goes to show it's never too late.

Damn, I didnt know he started that late

[katsidis]

Evander Holyfield, Oscar De La Hoya, Winky Wright, Juan Manuel Marquez off the top of my head